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valleylocal (Anonymous) says…

Justthefacts,
School just got out a week and a half ago!!! I sure don't want the school district applying weed kill to the grass while the school children are playing on it.

Your parents must have and that's what's wrong with you!?!

valleylocal (Anonymous) says…

OK, through all the debate about this issue I have forget the real reason why this ordinance was brought to the attention of our City Council…To save gas? Convenience? Safety?…So please remind us or re-inform us…but If I remember correctly it was to save gas and be more economical or shall I say 'be green' or reduce our 'carbon foot print'! (Can't wait for the arguement

Bwhite: you stated it perferectly: “There is currently NO state recognized training process or requirements for these types of vehicles. Manufacturers offer saftey materials at the time of purchase but they traditionaly deal with of road issues and instruction on different terrain conditions. They do deal with the machines limitations, functions and saftey features which are useful in this application” .

But If you would continue reading your owners manual, you would read that performance, handeling, and safety is greatly reduced on paved surfaces and/or adverse conditions!

Let me put it this way…I can crap in a box and put a guarantee on it, but does it really mean its a good product?

valleylocal (Anonymous) says…

Stoffle,
I completely agree. I like the idea of OHVs on our streets a lot more then ATVs. They are more visible and have more safety features.

valleylocal (Anonymous) says…

I have done some homework on this issue, so please name those insurance companies because I've called 4 local agencies and thier response was a policy wouldn't be issued because ATV insurance policies are designed for 'off road' use and not public road systems.

I am not completely opposed to the idea and definitely not because “it is different than what we are used to”; I've have more cons then pros. Sorry.

valleylocal (Anonymous) says…

Most likely the ordinance will not be passed. Insurance companies will not cover ATV's on streets only for 'off road' use (ask your local insurance agent). The State of Colorado doesn't consider ATV's as motorized vehicles so local authorities who write violation tickets are only allowed to issue a fine and no points.

Its an additional safety issue to our streets; plus ATV tires aren't designed for asphalt or concrete, so they won't have the grip for stopping and cornering as they do for off road use.

One question for those who want to use thier ATV to get groceries…where do you put those sacks? Can't wait to see a bag tear and your goods go flying all across the road.

Internet research shows the average MPG for ATV's is 13.5 to 14. Wow, that will save a lot of gas.

If helmets are a requirement, will those in favor of this, still be in favor for it? Also, how will authorities know if an operator with a helmet is of age to operate a motor vehicle. I think the authorities already have enough to patrol and control. I just figured it out, i'm game for the city to raise taxes for additional men/woman power on the force.

NO to ATV's…what a silly idea.

valleylocal (Anonymous) says…

I agree it would be nice not to outsource our factories but if we didn't, then us Americans wouldn't be able to afford the products that we purchase. Products made over seas are produced pennies on the dollar thats why most corporate offices outsource their customer service as well. Its sucks but thats the way it is. Just a reminder to shop local, at all costs, because the revenue from sales tax stays in our community and thats what we want!!!

valleylocal (Anonymous) says…

What I don't understand, is whats the difference between the young adults now vs when we were young adults? Didn't most of us try drinking when we underage? Granted the drinking age at that time was 18 but still. Instead of passing another law, lets try and educate the youth about the effects of alcoholism and drug addition, instead passing laws that will effect their future and their parents! What would the system do with a youth if his/hers parents are sent to jail/prison? Put him/her in foster care! That just creates another problem.

valleylocal (Anonymous) says…

First, I'm not even close to a muscle head so don't even judge. Second, social security won't be around by the time I retire in 20 years. Third, my grandmother isn't on medicare/medicaide/social security because she busted her butt all her life and was raised not to receive help. Fourth, the reason why I mentioned the penal system is because i'm not in it, therefore I don't use it, but yes you are correct about keeping the felons locked up, but they should have to work for their stay! Fifth, do you really think the library is used by todays generation as it was a decade ago? Its not, due to the internet and other resources at school, and last but not least, the county roads, maybe I do drive on a few here and there, but I don't see why our county plows have to drive up a road 15 miles or so to reach 1 driveway. So, just because I like to stay in shape and would like a nice place to go to get out of the cold doesn't paint me as a muscle head!!!

valleylocal (Anonymous) says…

It gives me great pleasure knowing how you stand and what it says about you…I wish I could stop paying into social security, some social service programs, penal systems, county road maintainance, libraries, etc, because I don't use these facilities or programs but yet I have to pay into them (without complaint), when I would rather have that money go towards a rec center or a CNCC sponsored rec center.

valleylocal (Anonymous) says…

You don't need laws to do your part in keeping our community and county a beautiful place. Its called volunteering and taking pride. I'm on Bill's side, last summer a group went to pebble beach and sand beach, on the river, and picked up around 800lbs of trash; they didn't need a law to do their part. Good for them!!!