These things form the past should be brought up often and at every opportunity because that is what keeps those in command and control now, (Leos and elected officials) from committing similar crimes and infractions. Horse thieves were hung not so much for the horse they stole but so other horses would not be stolen! They knew they were doing wrong when they did the dirty deed and did not care one bit about their reputation or how their actions would impact friends and family members! Stop the “it's so sad they paid in so many ways, stop mentioning it because it hurts them crap” because they knew exactly what they were doing and what the consequences of their actions would be if the truth came to light!
No, contrare, contrare, I did not say that Mr. W was a womanizer, it is the Chief LEO of the county who has that well deserved and earned reputation! That would be Mr. T, not Mr. W.
And since when is it that internal investigations don't go criminal when probable cause of criminal wrong doing is the only reasonable conclusion???, because after all, the woman was not just visiting Kenny Boy, she was known to have been sleeping over according to a Post Certified and Sworn LEO who witnessed the events. Maybe not in Craig America, or when the desired outcome is an inconclusive investigation, (Which is obvious in this case) but internal investigations do go criminal and investigators do obtain warrants elsewhere without having to go to the DA's Office. Pointing at the fourth amendment of the Constitution as the rule or reason Mr. W did not do his job properly is really lame.
Even what you have stated in Mr. W's defense doesn't pass the logic test. You say Mr. W went to Big Joe with the same evidence Mr. W could not use to get a warrant that was then used by Big Joe to obtain the necessary warrant.
The fact is that upon probable cause, supported by what Mr. W had evidence wise, Big Joe did what Mr. W failed or refused to do. (Which is why he should no longer be employed by the city.)
As soon as Mr. W was notified that motions were filed with the court questioning the integrity of Kenny Boy Mr. W had to start claiming he was fooled by the dishonest Kenny and his new squeeze. Mr. W's assertion that he was fooled seems to contradict your assertion that he initiated the criminal investigation at the DA's Office with Big Joe!
The fact that a fellow officer of the ACET team had witnessed the sleep overs by the new squeeze was enough probable cause for a warrant and Mr. W did not get one and that is why he is not qualified to follow in his predecessors footsteps (Mr. Rex) into a dog catcher job!
And frankly as a side note, I see hot future for Ms. Merwin (after she gets out) in the medical field as an expert in solving ED problems!
If the city manager and city council don't fire (Mr. I can't write what I call him now here) then the city council needs to be fired at the ballot box! Then the new council can fire them both!
And just how did little Joe go about getting access to the massages? The same way Mr. Walt should have gotten access to them! If it was an investigation ???? then why the hell did he not investigate? What rule or rules state that in an internal Craig PD investigation the investigator cannot go get a warrant to obtain those messages? Because it was the typical cover up phony investigation the City of Craig and this county is famous for, that's why? There are no such rules! Show me and the rest of this forum the municipal code that prevented Mr. Walt from obtaining a warrant. It took the DA's Office and specifically little Joe to do it right! And in my opinion Little Joe is a big big man like the singer turned sausage maker sang about big bad John!
And what do you mean no evidence? The woman was having sleep overs with Kenny boy in the basement of another cop's house who was the previous arresting officer of the woman which put her in drug court in the first place. No proof, just another cops word about the sleep overs, no proof my ear. Every traffic ticket is only the cop's word against the accused! It was a sham cover up from the word go and everybody knows it and unless Mr. Walt gets the boot we will just get more of the same and everyone including you knows that is true also!
And I must correct you again because I have not bashed anyone other than the guilty parties (who were arrested) and those who did the sham, cover up, investigation! And make no mistake it is the sham cover up that has and continues to do the real damage to the Craig Police Department not the (Arrested) or posters of this forum who are only shining the light of truth on the fact that Mr. Walt could have obtained all the same evidence that the DA's office did if he was not either incompetent or intentionally not doing the investigation properly. This is only stating the obvious!
I think I will have to start calling Little Joe, Big Joe, and Mr. Walt, something I can't write here.
Now just wait one second there. Mr. Walt had the ability to do an investigation as through as Little Joe over at the DA's office but he chose not to of is incompetent and for that he should have his fanny handed to him end of story! And nothing is going to get any better unless the City of Craig sends him packing. All this hand wringing and oh oh oh we were fooled too nonsense. If a proper investigation had been done in the first place instead of a cover-up job the Leos would not look so stupid. I know there are good ones but you have to cut out the cancer and in this case it was not just Mr. Ken but it is brain cancer at the top that needs to go. The city council needs to step up and do the surgery on the PD. If they don't get rid of them!
Mafia County is right! I don't state have of what should be said because the paper will delete my posts. Norights, If you like the archives in this paper you will love the fact that this paper suspended this forum completely for about two weeks when this paper's favorite candidate for sheriff was being exposed for all to see during the last sheriff's election. So much for the fourth estate! (The “Fourth Estate” refers to the press being independent watchdogs for the people, for those of you who only have a MoCo education)
Walt needs a pink slip from the city council and they need to hire a no nonsense objective person with the intestinal fortitude to enforce the law equally for everyone. And as for enforcing the law equally in the county the womanizer in chief we have now ain't the right guy! Standing by for a post delete!
Wow, I wonder what planet that guy was filming from? (Faked!) I watched the sun set from the west side of Black Mountain tonight and did not see two suns setting. Might be cool to be on a planet in a binary star system that the government is hiding the existance of from everyone on the planet but I don't think so. Do you live in Maybell?
Thanks Oliver, I read it and hats off to Little Joe!
Merwin and Johnson should be charged with Gross Stupidity! And Vanatta and DeLong should get the ax! I suspected it before I read it but those who did the “Internal Cover Up” should be fired! Gross Incompetence at best and most likely cover up.
Mr. Jones and the city council should take action immediately. Clean house folks! Clean house!
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These things form the past should be brought up often and at every opportunity because that is what keeps those in command and control now, (Leos and elected officials) from committing similar crimes and infractions. Horse thieves were hung not so much for the horse they stole but so other horses would not be stolen! They knew they were doing wrong when they did the dirty deed and did not care one bit about their reputation or how their actions would impact friends and family members! Stop the “it's so sad they paid in so many ways, stop mentioning it because it hurts them crap” because they knew exactly what they were doing and what the consequences of their actions would be if the truth came to light!
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No, contrare, contrare, I did not say that Mr. W was a womanizer, it is the Chief LEO of the county who has that well deserved and earned reputation! That would be Mr. T, not Mr. W.
And since when is it that internal investigations don't go criminal when probable cause of criminal wrong doing is the only reasonable conclusion???, because after all, the woman was not just visiting Kenny Boy, she was known to have been sleeping over according to a Post Certified and Sworn LEO who witnessed the events. Maybe not in Craig America, or when the desired outcome is an inconclusive investigation, (Which is obvious in this case) but internal investigations do go criminal and investigators do obtain warrants elsewhere without having to go to the DA's Office. Pointing at the fourth amendment of the Constitution as the rule or reason Mr. W did not do his job properly is really lame.
Even what you have stated in Mr. W's defense doesn't pass the logic test. You say Mr. W went to Big Joe with the same evidence Mr. W could not use to get a warrant that was then used by Big Joe to obtain the necessary warrant.
The fact is that upon probable cause, supported by what Mr. W had evidence wise, Big Joe did what Mr. W failed or refused to do. (Which is why he should no longer be employed by the city.)
As soon as Mr. W was notified that motions were filed with the court questioning the integrity of Kenny Boy Mr. W had to start claiming he was fooled by the dishonest Kenny and his new squeeze. Mr. W's assertion that he was fooled seems to contradict your assertion that he initiated the criminal investigation at the DA's Office with Big Joe!
The fact that a fellow officer of the ACET team had witnessed the sleep overs by the new squeeze was enough probable cause for a warrant and Mr. W did not get one and that is why he is not qualified to follow in his predecessors footsteps (Mr. Rex) into a dog catcher job!
And frankly as a side note, I see hot future for Ms. Merwin (after she gets out) in the medical field as an expert in solving ED problems!
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If the city manager and city council don't fire (Mr. I can't write what I call him now here) then the city council needs to be fired at the ballot box! Then the new council can fire them both!
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And just how did little Joe go about getting access to the massages? The same way Mr. Walt should have gotten access to them! If it was an investigation ???? then why the hell did he not investigate? What rule or rules state that in an internal Craig PD investigation the investigator cannot go get a warrant to obtain those messages? Because it was the typical cover up phony investigation the City of Craig and this county is famous for, that's why? There are no such rules! Show me and the rest of this forum the municipal code that prevented Mr. Walt from obtaining a warrant. It took the DA's Office and specifically little Joe to do it right! And in my opinion Little Joe is a big big man like the singer turned sausage maker sang about big bad John!
And what do you mean no evidence? The woman was having sleep overs with Kenny boy in the basement of another cop's house who was the previous arresting officer of the woman which put her in drug court in the first place. No proof, just another cops word about the sleep overs, no proof my ear. Every traffic ticket is only the cop's word against the accused! It was a sham cover up from the word go and everybody knows it and unless Mr. Walt gets the boot we will just get more of the same and everyone including you knows that is true also!
And I must correct you again because I have not bashed anyone other than the guilty parties (who were arrested) and those who did the sham, cover up, investigation! And make no mistake it is the sham cover up that has and continues to do the real damage to the Craig Police Department not the (Arrested) or posters of this forum who are only shining the light of truth on the fact that Mr. Walt could have obtained all the same evidence that the DA's office did if he was not either incompetent or intentionally not doing the investigation properly. This is only stating the obvious!
I think I will have to start calling Little Joe, Big Joe, and Mr. Walt, something I can't write here.
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Now just wait one second there. Mr. Walt had the ability to do an investigation as through as Little Joe over at the DA's office but he chose not to of is incompetent and for that he should have his fanny handed to him end of story! And nothing is going to get any better unless the City of Craig sends him packing. All this hand wringing and oh oh oh we were fooled too nonsense. If a proper investigation had been done in the first place instead of a cover-up job the Leos would not look so stupid. I know there are good ones but you have to cut out the cancer and in this case it was not just Mr. Ken but it is brain cancer at the top that needs to go. The city council needs to step up and do the surgery on the PD. If they don't get rid of them!
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The brightest thing said on the subject in a long time! Hats off to als.
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Mafia County is right! I don't state have of what should be said because the paper will delete my posts. Norights, If you like the archives in this paper you will love the fact that this paper suspended this forum completely for about two weeks when this paper's favorite candidate for sheriff was being exposed for all to see during the last sheriff's election. So much for the fourth estate! (The “Fourth Estate” refers to the press being independent watchdogs for the people, for those of you who only have a MoCo education)
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Walt needs a pink slip from the city council and they need to hire a no nonsense objective person with the intestinal fortitude to enforce the law equally for everyone. And as for enforcing the law equally in the county the womanizer in chief we have now ain't the right guy! Standing by for a post delete!
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Wow, I wonder what planet that guy was filming from? (Faked!) I watched the sun set from the west side of Black Mountain tonight and did not see two suns setting. Might be cool to be on a planet in a binary star system that the government is hiding the existance of from everyone on the planet but I don't think so. Do you live in Maybell?
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Thanks Oliver, I read it and hats off to Little Joe!
Merwin and Johnson should be charged with Gross Stupidity! And Vanatta and DeLong should get the ax! I suspected it before I read it but those who did the “Internal Cover Up” should be fired! Gross Incompetence at best and most likely cover up.
Mr. Jones and the city council should take action immediately. Clean house folks! Clean house!