I have to agree with GreyStone, this was a nutjob that did not appear to be particularly involved with politics. He had a very short fuse and most likely mentally ill. The biggest problem I see, is how to determine what nutjobs will go over the edge and do exactly what happened. What threats do you take seriously? And why didn't the people closest to him see that he was going over the edge?
The main stream media has been very quick to point fingers and blame everyone EXCEPT the shooter. No one is to blame for this horrific shooting except Jared Lee Loughner; not Palin, not Fox News, not the right wingers. I'm tired of our society putting blame on everyone except where it belongs - on the perpetrator.
I just don't get it. Where has this sense of entitlement come from in our current society? Or this sense that just because someone is rich, they should pay much more and “even the playing field” so to speak.
So a kid has insurance until they're done with school, sounds good to me. You and I and our kids didn't have extended insurance and did just fine.
All these demands for free social services, coddling, entitlements - call it what you want - costs money. Hasn't anyone noticed, this country is going broke, and it's not getting any better any time soon. The system is broke and needs to be fixed first, not more money thrown at it, that includes the new health care system. The new laws were cobbled together and shoved down our collective throats. I bet not one person in congress or senate can tell you exactly what's in those new health care laws, yet we are supposed to - as well as our health care providers. I'm not going to argue that health care needs to be reformed, but it needed to start with tort reform and continue on to straightening out the mess with the insurance companies. Right now health care costs and insurance companies are in a vicious upward spiral, due to the costs they have to absorb for the uninsured and illegals. I personally would have liked to see health care reformed in smaller more digestible chunks. However first and foremost, our borders need to be secured and the neverending flood of illegals stopped. We simply cannot continue absorbing the cost. The financial burden is bankrupting this country.
Like it or not, we're going to have to suck it up and quit demanding that Uncle Sam take care of us. We're turning into a nanny state and it's got to stop. By the way, Arizona REALLY can't afford transplants. Who's going to pay for them? People die every day, as harsh as it sounds the sad reality is that it's part of life and not everyone can be saved. To assume the government is obligated to save each and every one of us is crazy.
The lack of a walking path along Hwy 40 has been an issue for 30+ years and sadly it's never been addressed properly. Though the path over the hill is lovely, it's only useful during the summer months and not too useful at any time for simply walking to town. It's certainly not a good bike path either. It was meant as a trail around Craig, which never got completed.
My condolences to Justin's family and friends. It indeed was a needless tragedy.
Taxslave, John's stories about his family and growing up are not crap, they're true. He made something of himself in spite of his rough start and lots of hard knocks. So he gets emotional, big deal. At least he has feelings and isn't afraid to show them.
As for Glen Beck, if you really listen to him - he will make you think and question, instead of just going along with what the MSM (main stream media) feeds us. A lot of what he talks about may sound off the wall, however he has studied history and the constitution and he's not as nuts as the MSM makes him out to be.
Anti-deer plot - you are joking right??? If you have an excess of deer around town, it's going to attract predators. It doesn't take a rocket scientist - or in this case a biologist - to figure that out. The deer are already half tame and some are sick, so very easy pickings. And all you folks who think the deer are so cute to have in town, you better not complain about the predators now and want them removed. Remember they were here first and just doing what they do naturally. In the end it looks like mother nature will take care of the deer problem.
David, I own and operate the BigGameHunt.net web site and am well aware of the deer problems in other communities (out east even in the cities) for many years. We have reported on the methods of management that you outlined for a very long time. Some methods are reasonable, but many are not, and very expensive. However we do not want our population of deer to reach the level of disease and overpopulation that has overwhelmed so many communities, so I do believe some level of management needs to be instituted before it is out of control.
Fortunately, mule deer are a more timid species than whitetail and they are not quite as prolific in reproducing, so they most likely will not become quite as big a problem as whitetail do.
I hope the city of Craig and the DOW can come up with a plan to curb the deer population. Simply allowing the deer to “be” is not a solution.
All you deer lovers need to get a grip! Have you forgotten that we live in a popular hunting area, yes hunting - not petting zoo!
Deer are wild animals, they should never have been allowed to multiply to this level in town. We manage deer, yes - hunt, kill and eat deer outside of town. How in the world is in town any different? Hunters come here to HUNT them!
Nobody said they would remove or kill ALL the deer, but they need to be managed, something that has obviously not been done. Another post mentioned that it won't be long before predators find the easy pickings in town. So not only will we have a resident deer problem, but predators like mountain lion roaming about as well. They're already prowling on the outskirts.
And DavidMoore, do you really want to invite the likes of PETA into Craig?
Elk are not deer! You really want to invite elk into downtown Craig???
Of course there's a place for wildlife here, and that's outside of town! The wildlife does wander into town, but we have too large of a population of DEER that have made themselves comfortable in yards. They are not domesticated animals and they are getting diseased from living in town.
This idea that people are doing something unnatural by wanting to manage the deer population in town is simply ridiculous. Maybe YOU need to move to Boulder or better yet California, where they want to live with all the wild critters in their backyards, and then complain when they attack or do damage.
Nobody said they wanted to remove ALL the deer, but their numbers in town do need to be curbed and managed in an ongoing manner.
16 January 2011
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Marvin, I agree 100%! I was disappointed to read that the DOW was caving in to the comments made by people that did not know the true facts.
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nadja (Anonymous) says…
I have to agree with GreyStone, this was a nutjob that did not appear to be particularly involved with politics. He had a very short fuse and most likely mentally ill. The biggest problem I see, is how to determine what nutjobs will go over the edge and do exactly what happened. What threats do you take seriously? And why didn't the people closest to him see that he was going over the edge?
The main stream media has been very quick to point fingers and blame everyone EXCEPT the shooter. No one is to blame for this horrific shooting except Jared Lee Loughner; not Palin, not Fox News, not the right wingers. I'm tired of our society putting blame on everyone except where it belongs - on the perpetrator.
11 January 2011
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nadja (Anonymous) says…
I just don't get it. Where has this sense of entitlement come from in our current society? Or this sense that just because someone is rich, they should pay much more and “even the playing field” so to speak.
So a kid has insurance until they're done with school, sounds good to me. You and I and our kids didn't have extended insurance and did just fine.
All these demands for free social services, coddling, entitlements - call it what you want - costs money. Hasn't anyone noticed, this country is going broke, and it's not getting any better any time soon. The system is broke and needs to be fixed first, not more money thrown at it, that includes the new health care system. The new laws were cobbled together and shoved down our collective throats. I bet not one person in congress or senate can tell you exactly what's in those new health care laws, yet we are supposed to - as well as our health care providers. I'm not going to argue that health care needs to be reformed, but it needed to start with tort reform and continue on to straightening out the mess with the insurance companies. Right now health care costs and insurance companies are in a vicious upward spiral, due to the costs they have to absorb for the uninsured and illegals. I personally would have liked to see health care reformed in smaller more digestible chunks. However first and foremost, our borders need to be secured and the neverending flood of illegals stopped. We simply cannot continue absorbing the cost. The financial burden is bankrupting this country.
Like it or not, we're going to have to suck it up and quit demanding that Uncle Sam take care of us. We're turning into a nanny state and it's got to stop. By the way, Arizona REALLY can't afford transplants. Who's going to pay for them? People die every day, as harsh as it sounds the sad reality is that it's part of life and not everyone can be saved. To assume the government is obligated to save each and every one of us is crazy.
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nadja (Anonymous) says…
The lack of a walking path along Hwy 40 has been an issue for 30+ years and sadly it's never been addressed properly. Though the path over the hill is lovely, it's only useful during the summer months and not too useful at any time for simply walking to town. It's certainly not a good bike path either. It was meant as a trail around Craig, which never got completed.
My condolences to Justin's family and friends. It indeed was a needless tragedy.
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nadja (Anonymous) says…
Calling someone a pedophile when you don't have any facts to support that statement is vile. Rumors do not qualify as fact.
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nadja (Anonymous) says…
Taxslave, John's stories about his family and growing up are not crap, they're true. He made something of himself in spite of his rough start and lots of hard knocks. So he gets emotional, big deal. At least he has feelings and isn't afraid to show them.
As for Glen Beck, if you really listen to him - he will make you think and question, instead of just going along with what the MSM (main stream media) feeds us. A lot of what he talks about may sound off the wall, however he has studied history and the constitution and he's not as nuts as the MSM makes him out to be.
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nadja (Anonymous) says…
Anti-deer plot - you are joking right??? If you have an excess of deer around town, it's going to attract predators. It doesn't take a rocket scientist - or in this case a biologist - to figure that out. The deer are already half tame and some are sick, so very easy pickings. And all you folks who think the deer are so cute to have in town, you better not complain about the predators now and want them removed. Remember they were here first and just doing what they do naturally. In the end it looks like mother nature will take care of the deer problem.
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nadja (Anonymous) says…
David, I own and operate the BigGameHunt.net web site and am well aware of the deer problems in other communities (out east even in the cities) for many years. We have reported on the methods of management that you outlined for a very long time. Some methods are reasonable, but many are not, and very expensive. However we do not want our population of deer to reach the level of disease and overpopulation that has overwhelmed so many communities, so I do believe some level of management needs to be instituted before it is out of control.
Fortunately, mule deer are a more timid species than whitetail and they are not quite as prolific in reproducing, so they most likely will not become quite as big a problem as whitetail do.
I hope the city of Craig and the DOW can come up with a plan to curb the deer population. Simply allowing the deer to “be” is not a solution.
3 November 2010
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nadja (Anonymous) says…
All you deer lovers need to get a grip! Have you forgotten that we live in a popular hunting area, yes hunting - not petting zoo!
Deer are wild animals, they should never have been allowed to multiply to this level in town. We manage deer, yes - hunt, kill and eat deer outside of town. How in the world is in town any different? Hunters come here to HUNT them!
Nobody said they would remove or kill ALL the deer, but they need to be managed, something that has obviously not been done. Another post mentioned that it won't be long before predators find the easy pickings in town. So not only will we have a resident deer problem, but predators like mountain lion roaming about as well. They're already prowling on the outskirts.
And DavidMoore, do you really want to invite the likes of PETA into Craig?
30 October 2010
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nadja (Anonymous) says…
Elk are not deer! You really want to invite elk into downtown Craig???
Of course there's a place for wildlife here, and that's outside of town! The wildlife does wander into town, but we have too large of a population of DEER that have made themselves comfortable in yards. They are not domesticated animals and they are getting diseased from living in town.
This idea that people are doing something unnatural by wanting to manage the deer population in town is simply ridiculous. Maybe YOU need to move to Boulder or better yet California, where they want to live with all the wild critters in their backyards, and then complain when they attack or do damage.
Nobody said they wanted to remove ALL the deer, but their numbers in town do need to be curbed and managed in an ongoing manner.