I have it! Let's plow the deer into the middle of the road and remove them. Then plow the snow into the driveways so people can't get in or out to disturb the deer!
Craig doesn't remove snow, they relocate snow. The snow is moved into driveways and that immediately turns to ice and cannot be moved when you return home. Lisa, that's why you pay taxes (pretty high here in Craig). The city needs to plow to the middle and then remove the snow. The crews do a good job with what they are told to do but the solution is backwards, I believe.
Why have “snow removal” anyway when the city doesn't remove it at all? Plowing ice into driveways makes it impossible to remove it anywhere most of the time. It's legal for the city to plow it into the driveways but illegal for citizens who pay taxes (for such things like snow removal) to put it back? What sense is this? Just plow it to the center and remove it like other cities do.
Agree with you both. Shanahan is the coach and the GM. He is so predictable like death and taxes. 1-4 since Elway left. I think he has “overcoached” the team at times and hasn't kept it simple enough to manage for some of these “braniacs” that play nowadays!
Happy New Year to you , too! My point is that cities with a smaller tax burden can plow correctly. I am not saying that the crews here do a poor job—far from it. Many are my relation, however, to plowback into the driveways causes lots of problems for an aging populace who cannot keep up with the amount of solid ice removal that the plows cause often two to three times per day. This is dangerous! The answer is make this a priority, plow a windrow to the center, and remove it to lots toward the river. I certainly imagine the effort as I have done my homework to see what it costs in cities with a smaller tax base . If other communities do it, we should expect the same. Create a snow management plan!
Lived here lots longer than you. Help my neighbor three to four times a day with the ice the city plows into the driveway. Family homesteaded as a matter of fact. Seems to me that you just don't get it. It's not about Aspen, there is an analogy here that I'm confident you can't understand judging from your comment. so I'll just consider the source. To make it simpler for you, the bottom line is we PAY for snow removal—more than a rich community. Oh well, you don't really want to get it so go back to your shack and put your head back in the sand.
Okay! You made me do the math! :) First, let's start with taxes. Taxes are collected in part to provide public works projects and to insure the safety of its individual citizens. Let's give you an example. I believe that you would agree the citizens in Aspen, Colorado, are a bit more affluent than their counterparts in our city of Craig. The city tax in Aspen is 2.2 percent compared to that of Craig where we are taxed at the higher rate of 2.25 percent plus a county tax of 1.9 percent for lodging. How does the less taxed City of Aspen remove its snow? As stated in a recent edition of the Summit Daily by Director of the Aspen Street Department:” the snow removal effort involved 20 hired dump trucks, as well as the city's three motor graders, two front-end loaders and two dump trucks This was [moved to] the official snow dump site:” Notice, in this less taxed city, he did not say the dumpsites were peoples driveways—they actually remove the snow! According to Wickepedia, cities have the responsibility to remove snow,” In cities where snow steadily accumulates over the winter it is also necessary to remove the piles of snow that build up on the side of the roads known as windrows. Not removing these windrows cause dangerous situations for citizens.” Further, “The windrows created by the plows in residential areas often block driveways and imprison parked cars. The snow pushed there by any plow is a dense, packed version of “normal” fallen snow. When the temperatures are significantly below freezing this packed snow takes some of the characteristics of solid ice. Its removal is nearly impossible.” It goes on to say that this “plowed in” ice in driveways cannot be removed even with snowblowers. Heavier mechanical means (plows) are required. You know this folks in Craig! There are other towns in Colorado that are more affluent than Craig that are taxed less. Two other examples are the cities of Frisco and Lone Tree and they all remove the snow to rivers and vacant lots. This needs to be a priority in Craig, I believe.
Look at how other cities do it. That why we pay taxes==for snow removal==not relocation. I guess service is too much to ask for these days. Do a job, do it well, or don't do it at all.
The city does a poor job of plowing—into peoples' driveways. Is this what our tax dollars are for? Please, plow into the center and then remove the snow—not into the driveways so people have to struggle with ice. That's why we pay taxes—for snow removal not snow relocation!
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I have it! Let's plow the deer into the middle of the road and remove them. Then plow the snow into the driveways so people can't get in or out to disturb the deer!
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Craig doesn't remove snow, they relocate snow. The snow is moved into driveways and that immediately turns to ice and cannot be moved when you return home. Lisa, that's why you pay taxes (pretty high here in Craig). The city needs to plow to the middle and then remove the snow. The crews do a good job with what they are told to do but the solution is backwards, I believe.
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Why have “snow removal” anyway when the city doesn't remove it at all? Plowing ice into driveways makes it impossible to remove it anywhere most of the time. It's legal for the city to plow it into the driveways but illegal for citizens who pay taxes (for such things like snow removal) to put it back? What sense is this? Just plow it to the center and remove it like other cities do.
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Agree with you both. Shanahan is the coach and the GM. He is so predictable like death and taxes. 1-4 since Elway left. I think he has “overcoached” the team at times and hasn't kept it simple enough to manage for some of these “braniacs” that play nowadays!
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Happy New Year to you , too! My point is that cities with a smaller tax burden can plow correctly. I am not saying that the crews here do a poor job—far from it. Many are my relation, however, to plowback into the driveways causes lots of problems for an aging populace who cannot keep up with the amount of solid ice removal that the plows cause often two to three times per day. This is dangerous! The answer is make this a priority, plow a windrow to the center, and remove it to lots toward the river. I certainly imagine the effort as I have done my homework to see what it costs in cities with a smaller tax base . If other communities do it, we should expect the same. Create a snow management plan!
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Lived here lots longer than you. Help my neighbor three to four times a day with the ice the city plows into the driveway. Family homesteaded as a matter of fact. Seems to me that you just don't get it. It's not about Aspen, there is an analogy here that I'm confident you can't understand judging from your comment. so I'll just consider the source. To make it simpler for you, the bottom line is we PAY for snow removal—more than a rich community. Oh well, you don't really want to get it so go back to your shack and put your head back in the sand.
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Okay! You made me do the math! :) First, let's start with taxes. Taxes are collected in part to provide public works projects and to insure the safety of its individual citizens. Let's give you an example. I believe that you would agree the citizens in Aspen, Colorado, are a bit more affluent than their counterparts in our city of Craig. The city tax in Aspen is 2.2 percent compared to that of Craig where we are taxed at the higher rate of 2.25 percent plus a county tax of 1.9 percent for lodging. How does the less taxed City of Aspen remove its snow? As stated in a recent edition of the Summit Daily by Director of the Aspen Street Department:” the snow removal effort involved 20 hired dump trucks, as well as the city's three motor graders, two front-end loaders and two dump trucks This was [moved to] the official snow dump site:” Notice, in this less taxed city, he did not say the dumpsites were peoples driveways—they actually remove the snow! According to Wickepedia, cities have the responsibility to remove snow,” In cities where snow steadily accumulates over the winter it is also necessary to remove the piles of snow that build up on the side of the roads known as windrows. Not removing these windrows cause dangerous situations for citizens.” Further, “The windrows created by the plows in residential areas often block driveways and imprison parked cars. The snow pushed there by any plow is a dense, packed version of “normal” fallen snow. When the temperatures are significantly below freezing this packed snow takes some of the characteristics of solid ice. Its removal is nearly impossible.” It goes on to say that this “plowed in” ice in driveways cannot be removed even with snowblowers. Heavier mechanical means (plows) are required. You know this folks in Craig! There are other towns in Colorado that are more affluent than Craig that are taxed less. Two other examples are the cities of Frisco and Lone Tree and they all remove the snow to rivers and vacant lots. This needs to be a priority in Craig, I believe.
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Check out past 8th grade teams if you think this year's was okay.
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Look at how other cities do it. That why we pay taxes==for snow removal==not relocation. I guess service is too much to ask for these days. Do a job, do it well, or don't do it at all.
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The city does a poor job of plowing—into peoples' driveways. Is this what our tax dollars are for? Please, plow into the center and then remove the snow—not into the driveways so people have to struggle with ice. That's why we pay taxes—for snow removal not snow relocation!