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jamcolo 4 years, 10 months ago on James Merett: Symbolism of obelisk

PAGAN: By the fifth century CE, its meaning evolved to include all non-Christians deities.

This is the definition I was thinking of when I used the word "pagan". Sorry for the confusion.

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jamcolo 4 years, 10 months ago on James Merett: Symbolism of obelisk

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Write to the paper prove what I wrote is wrong.

Our Justice system also derived from Pagan Greek and Roman concepts. Courthouses throughout America honor our Goddess of Justice with magnificent statues.

The Spirit of Justice statute (also referred to as Minnie Lou) stands in the Great Hall of the Justice department building.

She also represents the Goddess of Justice in Art Deco style. Unfortunately, John Ashcroft (a right-wing Christian) felt offended by her naked metal breasts so he had the statue covered, thus insulting American Pagans countrywide.

Christians want you to believe that, somehow, Moses and the tablets on the Supreme Court building represents proof that U.S. laws derived from the Ten Commandments. Nothing could stand further from the truth.

In the first place, Moses does not sit alone on the Supreme Court Frieze. Christians don't want you to know that Moses sits next to two Pagans-- Confucius and Solon.

Notorious pagans such as Hammurabi, Menes, Lycurgus, Draco, Augustus, and Justinian also appear among the lawgivers. Even Mohammed holding the Koran appears on the building! (Can you imagine the uproar that would occur if U.S. Muslims declared that Constitutional law derived from Allah and the Holy Koran?

Also in the Great Hall of the Supreme Court building, one will find our beloved Pagan Gods and Goddesses (Minerva, Zeus, Mercury, and Juno). Not a single Judeo-Christian God appears anywhere.

The main entrance to the Supreme Court, Moses does not appear there at all. Instead, we see on the main door, relief panels that depict Pagan reflections such as the Shield of Achilles, the Justinian Code, the Magna Carta.

I don't know what to tell ya. Our Forefathers were smart men that knew that if any one faith ruled that all would be forced to live by that faiths rules.

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jamcolo 4 years, 10 months ago on Dale Potter: Offering a different view

Dale make it sound like the Christians are all together on this creation thing.That is not the case.

Progressive creationism also known as day-age creationism to harmonize the Bible with current scientific beliefs such as stellar evolution, and the fossil record. It assumes the days of the creation were actually broad lengths of time, and proposes that God separately created the various kinds of animals and later man, but over a long period of time. It also accepts the evolutionary time scale. Hugh Ross and the Reasons to Believe ministry teaches progressive creation.

Gap Theory Creation Assumes that a vast period of time elapsed between the first two verses of Genesis. Most variations of this theory interpret Genesis 1:1 as the first creation, which included the creation of the heavens, the earth, plants and animals, and even a race of humans preceding Adam. Billions of years then elapsed,durning that time Satan and Angels fell corrupted the inhabitants of the earth. God then judged and destroyed the earth and all its inhabitants. Thus, the earth became "formless and void"and remained that way for eons. The second creation, according to the gap theory, began in Genesis 1:3 with the first day of the (re)creation week—the familiar six-day creation.

Intelligent Design Theory (ID) Holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection. This group will not use the God word for fear of getting kicked out of public schools as religion. With this one the intelligent cause could be an advanced alien civilization.

In Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District Trial Judge John E. Jones III, who was nominated by President George W. Bush, made a very strong ruling against intelligent design. He ruled that it is creationism and is not science. He also ruled that members of Dover's school board lied under oath to hide their religious motivations.Jones also received death threats as a result of which he and his family were given around-the-clock federal protection.

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jamcolo 4 years, 10 months ago on Kyla Pogline: He made Adam and Eve

Where are the rules for which of these old laws from the Bible to follow and which not to. Levitcus crazy laws

The OT is full of crazy laws, which modern Christians have no intention of following... unless it suits their purposes. They're happy to quote Lev. when they want to denounce someone for being gay, but they don't want to have to stone their children for talking back.

Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19) Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19) Don't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19) Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9) Have you ever done that? If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10) This would cut down on the number of divorces.

'Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.(Leviticus. 19:27)

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jamcolo 4 years, 10 months ago on Troy Taylor: Statements misleading

I 'll start with you very misleading bit about : church membership entailed a sworn public confession of Biblical faith. Not true in the sense of Biblical truth. The sworn confession was only that there is a god. Nothing about what god. It was used to become a Freemason.

Here it is. Yet the Master Mason makes a solemn oath on the Bible to "Acknowledge and obey all due signs and summons sent to me from a Master Masons' Lodge... all this I most solemnly and sincerely swear... So help me God" with the penalty of death by mutilation!

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jamcolo 4 years, 10 months ago on Bob Grubb: Response to Merett letter

I don't recall any consequences shown for deism. No hell awaits sinners with deism.

Half-baked atheists what a hoot. In the mid 1500's to 1600's Was the French Wars of Religion primarily fought between French Catholics and Protestants.

French Revolution was a three way war.Now of the parts were deists.For the most part it was a war between the The First Estate comprised the entire clergy,The Second Estate was the French nobility(or any man who owned land) and lastly the The Third Estate was the generality of people which were not part of the other estates. ( Common people)

Most historical models identify economic factors included widespread famine,starvation and malnutrition due to rising bread prices.The decision of King Louis XIII to reintroduce Catholicism in a portion of southwestern France prompted a Huguenot (Protestants) revolt.

Another cause was the fact that Louis XV fought many wars, bringing France to the verge of bankruptcy, made worse by the monarchy's military failures and ineptitude, and the lack of social services for war veterans.

Sure there was resentment of clerical advantage ( paid no taxes) and aspirations for freedom of religion.With the Protestants wanting to be free to follow their own ways.

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jamcolo 4 years, 10 months ago on Dale Potter: A counterargument

Oldsage,

Please inform me as to how you came up with my sign in name has anything to do with a Harley motorcycle? Your wrong, My name is James, I live in Colorado. I use the first three letters of my first name and the first four letters of the state I live to come up with Jamcolo. Then you call my a drunk and insult my education and IQ. I guess you missed that part in the Bible about judging others. Typical of many Christians sorry to say.

Thomas Jefferson wrote his own Bible. The Jefferson Bible, which eliminated all miracles attributed to Jesus and ended with his burial. In a letter to Peter Carr, 10 August 1787, he wrote, "Question with boldness even the existence of a god." John Adams: a Unitarian flatly denied the doctrine of eternal damnation. In a letter to Thomas Jefferson, he wrote:” I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved -- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"

James Madison, when Virginia was considering passage of a bill "establishing a provision for Teachers of the Christian Religion," Madison wrote his famous "Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments" in which he presented fifteen reasons why government should not be come involved in the support of any religion.

George Washington, Quotes: "When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself so that its professors are obliged to call for the help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one."

"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."

"In the affairs of the world, men are saved, not by faith, but by the lack of it."

Thomas Paine, “I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all." "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."

"The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authority; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion."

Even if some were Christian, they knew better then to give controlling power to the Church.

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jamcolo 4 years, 10 months ago on Dale Potter: A counterargument

In response to Dale Potter letter, A counterargument I have this to say. Many of our so-called founding fathers of our nation were not Bible-believing Christians; they were deists. Deism was a philosophical belief that was widely accepted by the colonial intelligentsia at the time of the American Revolution. Its major tenets included belief in human reason as a reliable means of solving social and political problems and belief in a supreme deity who created the universe to operate solely by natural laws. The supreme God of the Deists removed himself entirely from the universe after creating it. They believed that he assumed no control over it, exerted no influence on natural phenomena, and gave no supernatural revelation to man. A necessary consequence of these beliefs was a rejection of many doctrines central to the Christian religion. Deists did not believe in the virgin birth, divinity, or resurrection of Jesus, the efficacy of prayer, the miracles of the Bible, or even the divine inspiration of the Bible.

It is true that the words (separation of church and state) are not found in the Constitution. Guess what else is not in the Constitution. God,There is only one place where the word Lord is used in the Constitution.Found in the Signatory section, where the date is written thusly: "Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven". The use of the word "Lord" here is not a religious reference, however. This was a common way of expressing the date, in both religious and secular contexts.The phrase separation of church and state is generally traced to the letter written by Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists, in which he referred to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state. Adultery in the Bible is sex with anyone but your first wife not just your wife.Jesus had this to say. From Matthew 5. "But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality (FORNICATION) causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery. We see it again in Mark 10 ""Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. "And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery." yet again in Luke 16 but you get the idea. Scripture throughout teaches the permanency of the marriage union.

The Bible has a history of being used in the United States to justify the keeping of slaves,to keep woman from getting the right to vote and till the 1960's to keep mix race couples from getting married. The Bible also teaches us the the earth is flat with a sun that revolves around it. That explains why one adult American in five thinks the Sun revolves around the Earth.

It is past time to stop using the bible to spread hate of others that don't follow you beliefs or your cherry picking of scripture.

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