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Although, I wouldn't have used that 'exact' verbiage, I would be inclined to agree with Mr. Winder. Since when did the answer to financially struggling institutions, become growing from the top? There is a reason it is called ' getting to the root of the problem'. If your structure is failing, you start with the foundation, not the roof. If we are here because of a lack of adequate management, then it would stand to reason, the creation of this highly paid position, could and SHOULD result in the elimination of the currently failing management, if in fact they are truly failing (because, I do not see that as the case at all). If NOT, I suspect a little adjustment is all this would really require, along with better communication, and THAT would be a more economically feasible solution, to a problem that was created by funding in the first place.
Allen, we finally agree on something! The issue here is the arrogance of a select few, who believe that they can manipulate the taxpayers into passing a MLO. The simple fact of the matter is, we are being treated as fish.... And they think we will go for it. A shiney 'spinner', and decent bait, and they may have us hook, line, and sinker..... Complacency allowed this to occur... Proactive ownership in our collective 'Educational CO-OP' will rectify our current unbalanced situation.
I think it would be in the best interest of the community to look at what the ACTUAL cost of this initiative, in fact, really will be. And, to remember, that at the end of all of this, 4 year lease, we are returning the devices we will have been RENTING, along with the curriculum, and "cheaper textbooks" we PAID to download. So in four years, we will be poorer, have NO TEXTBOOKS to show for the 'techs-books' we PURCHASED, on devices we were just LEASING..... would you replace all the hollow doors in the home you rent with alder, at your own expense, in addition to paying rent, only to leave thousands of dollars in hardware behind when your lease is up and you have to move? This is really, the most nonsensical decision I have ever seen a group of adults make. And, when you see the long-term cost to the district..... We wished it was $645k. ..... It is going to cost us over 2 MILLION DOLLARS, for RENTED EQUIPMENT........ and, I can prove it.
Dennis, here are the particulars about the iPads:
We are getting them for everyone in the 5th grade, 8th grade, and for the AP students at the high school.
We are in a 4 year lease, now that this was approved. The students will not be keeping these devices, and neither is the district. (They rent the computers in the district as it is now, for the reasons that you expressed earlier, technology evolves quickly)
It will come at an expense of $650,000+ (as the curriculum they will download, is not included in that fee) at the end of 4 years.....
(cont.) See, we're in a catch 22, we WANT the students to have a top notch, quality education, but we don't want to reward the bad behavior of an administration that has clearly thumbed their nose as the taxpayers, and all but outright said, 'we will do whatever the hell we want, deal with it.'. I think if the educators, administrators, and school board wanted to have serious discussions about this, they wouldn't behave in such a manner, and would listen to what the taxpayers are saying to them and find a compromise. I KNOW our children are being short changed, and teachers alike. But, I do not see anything other than combative, defensive, and VERY manipulative behavior being exhibited by the folks who continue to take from the bottom to feed the top. Quid pro quo, I absolutely want to fund education, but, I have no reason to believe this district, is not going to continue to throw good money after bad. Brent told you all last year, go get those homeschooled children, and bring them back.... Why did they leave in the first place? You want more money in the district, ASK these folks why they left and what they expect from public education, get your $1,000,000+a year back that way, not by spending damn near $700,000 over a period of 4 years, with no guarantee that the hail Mary pass you are throwing, shrewd though it was, will pay off,on a salary and equipment that only serves the needs of some, and at the end of four years we cannot keep.... I think this district needs to be honest with itself, and stop misleading the community and staff about WHERE all these students have gone. There is a reason they are still here, but not in MCSD classrooms, and there is a reason you are not in either location. You saw no foreseeable changes, but neither does this community.... We are at an important crossroads, but it is possible there is some validity to BOTH sides of this argument?
You said the key phrase, you left. Community support is not as prevelant as it should be, however, what about those of us who are taking a proactive role? I would say that although, I am not a district employee, I bring credible talking points to the table, and yet because I agree with what the staff is saying, but not with the way our board and administration have chosen to go about implementation, I am percieved to have an opposing standpoint. I do not mean to sound dismissive, but your stance on this matter has been proven through your actions in leaving. Your position is that the community will not fund education, I agree with you. Moffat County has been the only place I have lived where folks consistently gripe about what they believe to be a sub-par education, and yet they will not fund it to make the necessary changes. I have been the biggest champion of funding education, but herein lies my issue..... If you have a household income that is less than your expenditures, adjustments need to made, and you then have to decide WHAT it is you need to survive, and what it is that makes your survival enjoyable. You keep the necessities, and your amenities are subject to what you can afford. In this case, we have done the opposite. Our classrooms and teachers have nothing more than what literally can no longer be picked off the bone to survive on, while the non-teaching roles in our district have been served up fillet mignon. Our classrooms need materials (resources, whatever best suits those needs, be it iPads or whatever), a new and updated curriculum at every grade level, and every building, (sans CMS) ALMOST, and in some cases more than $1,000,000 worth of repairs. We, this community, our boards, and our administrations, for MANY years, have neglected essential maintenance in these areas, in favor of 'this or that', and now, it is having a crippling effect. We NEED an exorbitant amount of money to rectify these oversights, and yet we also NEED to continue to move forward so that we may be competitive in education.... How we accomplish this, I do not know... But, I can tell you, that forcing the hand of the taxpayers, and pushing this through, with no discernable expenses being cut from the top, and in fact, blatent disregard for the financial uncertainty of this community, is not the way to endear one's self to those folks. Insinuating that we do not care about the education of our children, and bullying us into the passage of a MLO, and make no mistake, that is EXACTLY what is occurring here with the passing of this technology, is not the way to go about their business either. (cont.)
The argument has been recently that history is really of little importance anymore ...... We are moving onward and upward..... Well, call me crazy, but this appears to be the embodiment of the Tytler Cycle, in hyperdrive.
I would just like to clarify, I said he wanted us to spend $643,000 on materials we could not afford.
Again, you have yet to explain what the relevance of his family's past run ins with law enforcement have to do with the matter at hand. Dad is gone, brother was in jail.... I see the reasoning behind reporting on the driver's record, but what in the world is the purpose of including the other victim's criminal records. I typically try to shy away from arguing with idiots, but I am willing to make an exception in this case. I am waiting for you to address my original question, which I have once again, re-stated.....
Allen, I understand the basis of journalism, and the importance of reporting pertinent details, but I agree with Brenda. What, about the family dynamic and law enforcement history of both Dennis and Stephan, was relevant to the actions of, and current charges Logan Otis is facing? One had nothing to do with the other, and for a family that is already reeling, why would one feel it necessary to air out the remaining immediate family's dirty laundry? It is irrelevant, and in extremely poor taste. How has ANY of that information been helpful to the reporting of the facts surrounding the tragedy? Or this case?
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