cag81625 (Anonymous) says…

So if the powers that be give in to your requests at the detriment of those who favor the ordinance as it is, have they sold out to you? Do you see how that works? Democracy would be pretty darned easy if we all thought and acted the same way, but us crazy ol' humans tend to step on each others toes, hence zoning laws. The more tightly people are packed together, the more rules are necessary to maintain a quality of life. You sound like a wide open space kind of a guy, so I'd prefer it if you moved your homeless toys to some acreage out on the outskirts and left us “city folk” to our contrary ways.

cag81625 (Anonymous) says…

To quote a comedian I once heard, “You pushed the damn thing through the whole store, 50 more feet ain't gonna kill you!”

cag81625 (Anonymous) says…

 Patrick,

As far as the lodgepole and the beetles go, cutting and burning are good things. First off, many areas are being cut, but one of the biggest bottlenecks is the dearth of mills. That is slowly changing. There is a new mill (I'm told) being built to process dead lodgepole in Kremmling as we speak. Many folks are trying to build a market for the “blue stain” wood of beetle killed trees (it is pretty cool stuff) to make it more economical to cut and mill. Alternatively, lodgepole is a fire-dependent species and fire is actually necessary to open up their cones so the seeds can be released. Fire will have to occur over many acres if the lodgepole forests are to return someday. But, no matter what, a whole state's worth of lodgepole cannot be cut before nature does what it will do.

cag81625 (Anonymous) says…

 Patrick,

Where did you learn so much about forestry and silviculture?

“Insects and Disease: The mountain pine beetle is the most serious insect pest in mature Rocky Mountain lodgepole pine stands, periodically killing most of the large-diameter trees in a stand [14,18,175]. The beetle primarily attacks trees that are large enough to have sufficient phloem thickness to support the insect larvae [12,14,17,18,19]. Generally trees 14 inches (35.6 cm) and greater in diameter attract the mountain pine beetle, with smaller trees being attacked after these larger trees are killed [12,14]. Infestations continue until the phloem thickness of live trees is no longer sufficient as a food source. Trees smaller than 6 inches (15.2 cm) in diameter are rarely killed [14]. ”

Source: http://www.fs.fed.us/database/feis/pl…

Comparing the pine beetle issues in the N. Rockies lodgepole forests to the issues that affected logging the northwests forests are apples and oranges.

cag81625 (Anonymous) says…

Relax. I do not begrudge anyone's right to spout off, but to me it sounded like the ramblings of a nut and I said so- one of the joys of the anonymous internet. Perhaps I am not as eloquent and verbose as some but, hey, that's too bad. I happen to agree with much of your position and I am certainly glad I gave you something to do on a Sunday afternoon.

cag81625 (Anonymous) says…

Wow. That's quite the epiphany. Drawing a line from a Chinese fish to a bunch of dead elk out by Lay. I like to write when I'm drunk, too.

cag81625 (Anonymous) says…

Oldsage- Perhaps you should find more agreeable country to ranch in before your head explodes. I know of a little place where the grass grows tall, it never droughts or storms, the weeds are tasty and nutritious, all of the wildlife leave immediately after hunting season, and the govt. cradles you for every loss. in fantasyland!

cag81625 (Anonymous) says…

Sorry, been away from the ball and chain of the desk lately…

Not too worried about the poll, it'll do what it does. Besides, it'll be harder to jerry rig the results than if I had the many thousands of responses that I envisioned.

Nah, don't let the awards scare you off from that flick. Pretty good thriller in anybody's book. The endings a little wierd, but it's a cool flick. I used to live down near that country. They nailed the accent, attitides, and the way folks talk down there.

cag81625 (Anonymous) says…

Two for D. Looks like doing nothing is beating having cake and eating it too.

Yeah, Chuck's pretty cool. Right up there with Charles Bronson and that evil dude in No Country for Old Men.

“There is no theory of evolution. Just creatures that Chuck Norris has allowed to live.”

cag81625 (Anonymous) says…

Cool. I'll put you down for D.

“There is no ctrl key on Chuck Norris' computer, Chuck Norris is always in control.”