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allen13 (Anonymous) says…

Rodney did not get convicted of the elk he killed protecting his property. Do you understand? He was convicted (by his own mouth admitting he killed them) for the 2 calves, and the 2 bulls he killed illegally - one of them he ran over with the tractor. Do you understand? No matter how you slice it, that is not protecting your property. He got away with all the other elk he killed, and the ones he killed with the .17. Who by the way, kills an elk with a .17 humanely? He should feel lucky that he got away with more than he should've. And yes, if a bull elk gored my cows and I killed it, I would be protecting my property and would not hesitate to call DOW and request that they come out so I could show them the injured cow and the destroyed elk. Yes, I do understand that Rodney was not on trial for all the willful destruction of wildlife and poaching he has done in the past. But indeed it shows his true character and that while trying to portray in court that he was just trying to project his property and put elk out of the misery - is a bunch of BS. There are lots of people in town who know his wrong doings as fact, yes fact, and not just a bunch of crap talk. I had hoped that Snow would follow through with his investigation and get the right people on the stand. I would guess that since this is in the open now, more people will be welling to step forward and bring things to the authorities in the future. Many didn't before because it fell on def ears, and was over looked, or they were protecting someone else. If Rodney decides to appeal, a whole other can of worms could be opened for him. And I do understand how DOW handled their investigation. Law enforcement will use tactics such as lying and false pretenses - we wouldn't have a justice system without it if you really think about it. Criminals don't admit to their crimes. But I also know that in a specific case I know of, evidence was manufactured against someone, which was totally wrong. But the person was in fact guilty of the crime and paid for his mistake. Bottom line, Rodney was convicted by a jury of his peers, ranchers included. I commend them.

allen13 (Anonymous) says…

My land is no more less secure now because of the outcome of this trial. I still have the right to protect my property - say if my cows are gored by a bull elk, I'd shoot the elk. But, I would not shoot elk out of entertainment and BS sense of morals and values. How much land I have or don't have is not an issue. If DOW was on trial, there would be plenty of things I'd bring to the table of what they do wrong. One would be to take away ranching for wildlife. It's a crock. You big ranchers cry that there are so many elk, deer, antelope on your property causing damage. Then you want money from the government to pay for it. Then you want to collect hundreds and thousands of dollars for tresspass fees to hunt to get rid of those animals you don't want on your property. Well, there are a lot of us sick of you guys crying about it. You want your cake and eat it too. But, DOW was not on trial. Do you understand that? Rodney was, for poaching, and he did just that. It was not about protecting his property. Do you undertand that?

allen13 (Anonymous) says…

Getagrip - you otta get a grip. I don't need to cry in the corner, because I'm laughing out loud.

allen13 (Anonymous) says…

Oh, I'm sure if you ask a criminal if they broke the law, they are going to come right out and say, Yes, I did it. Get real. So I guess for law enforcement to get to the bottom of things, they might have to lie a little to get confessions. Law enforcement is doing their jobs by bringing criminals to justice. I'm sure when they asked OJ if he killed Nichole, he said no. I'm sure all those drug dealers try to say the drugs the cops found are not really theirs. Just like Rodney claiming to not have killed all those elk. Lie lie lie. Whatever. I hope Judge O'Hara gives him the max. You people loose track of the issue - it was not about protecting property, which you do have the right to do. It was about poaching and willfull destruction of wildlife. At least Wolgram nutted up.

allen13 (Anonymous) says…

Tencman & Taxslave - I sure hope the DOW is keeping an eye on your ranches!! Maybe you'll be the next to be prosecuted, if I'm reading between the lines right, you've done your own share of 'protecting your property'. I'm glad that I'm not the only one that has mentioned the BS wilfull destruction of wildlife that Rodney has done over the years. You people who don't believe he has done those wrongs, then you should wake up! I hope Rodney goes to jail and while he's sitting there, I'm sure he wont even reflect on what he has done to all those animals as wrong, because he's so twisted. Every citizen (rather a rancher or not) has the right to protect your property. However, Tencman & Taxslave - this was not about protecting his property. If it was, truly, he wouldn't have been charged. He got off way easy. He would've been convicted of more if he wouldn't have hid the guns that would have matched up with the bullets in the other bodies. My hat is off to Snow, the DOW, and the Jury for at least making him accountable for a few of the wrongs he has done.

allen13 (Anonymous) says…

Just a quick question from one of yesterday's posts… So I guess it is not ok for the ranchers to have to deal with elk on their property and eating their livestock's hay — but it is ok for the ranchers to put their livestock on BLM and forest lands so that their livestock can eat the elk's food, huh? And for the record, I might sound like I'm stereotyping “ranchers” and lumping them together, but I'm not - I'm from a ranching family and not all ranchers share the opinion of Culverwell's supporters.

allen13 (Anonymous) says…

dowfan - If granny was getting beat up on by her husband and she took the law into her own hands, that would be “Self Defense” which is not illegal. If she waited for him to go to sleep and shot him in the head, now that would be premeditated murder and she would go to prision, for what? For breaking the law! Poaching is breaking the law. Rodney's been poaching for years - what was it someone said (think it was sickandtired) what goes around comes around. Hmmm, guess maybe Rodney will be getting his come around now. About time!

allen13 (Anonymous) says…

Tencman - I have to wonder, how many elk did you kill on your property? You seem to be pretty supportive of the doings of Culverwell. That is your right to support him though.

BUT your post is very interesting to me. You state a good attorney will provide the best legal council possible… true… and that attorney can get some one off who is guilty. I have a good notion that Rodney will be found innocent, or have a hung jury. But that still does not make him innocent. If that happens, he just got lucky because his attorney out lawyered Snow. OJ was found innocent too. That's a joke. Just like it will be if Rodney is found innocent. You also stated that “the actions of a man defending what is his and making no attempt to hide it in a situation such as this speaks for a lot of people in many different ways” and “I doubt all the facts have been presented to the public and most have learned not to judge without all facts.” Well Tencman, that is well said, because you see, Rodney is hiding things, such as the other guns that would match up with the bullets in those other elk he claimed he did not shoot. And the many other big game he and his buddies slaughtered over the years. Yes, it is very very true, and there are others out there that know it as a fact. It makes me pounder the possibility that Snow isn't doing his best to prosecute this case, or he would've got to the bottom of it and put the right witnesses on the stand to prove it. Rodney is perjuring himself. And in your words “It is amazing how many people claim to know what is legal and what isn't and who should pay and who shouldn't without knowing all the facts and delegated responsibilities.” Maybe you'd better know the facts as well Tencman.

allen13 (Anonymous) says…

Sickandtired - explain to me why the government should have to bail ranchers out anyway? Don't get me wrong, I'm from a ranching family (not from the City), but that is the risk we take in our business. Why is it that downtown businesses can go out of business and the government does not come in and help them out? A gas station closes down, a lumber yard, a grocery store, etc - non of who get government assistance. And no, I would not eat an elk that was starving to death, however - when the elk first started having problems, DOW should have fed them, but since they did not get the kill ratio they wanted during hunting season, I guess they figured they'd get the herds down by starving them to death. When this was first a problem, licenses should've been issued so the animals could've been harvested before they were starving to death. That did not happen. And Rodney still was illegal in shooting them, regardless. We had elk starving to death in our pasture too, and guess what - we fed them! We don't have extra money either, but our cows & horses made it through, and we saved a few elk too.

allen13 (Anonymous) says…

biggred 1576 - Being an open range state, that would mean Culverwell (being the property owner) would have the responsibility to fence out the animals.