I agree Robin Willis. I looked up the regulations you mentioned and it is very clear on how to handle disipline problems. My understanding of the policy is that they do some kind of retraining or counseling. Then if the problem continues there is a write up. Then after that there is the possibility of termination, or dismisal the call it. There was very few things that actually mentioned imediate termination. The only thing I can remember is if an officer does something to ruin their credibility or interfere with the operation of the police force. Or cauce eminent danger to the public either by their own action or inaction.
I'm curious why the CCC would have a problem with the community wanting to listen to what they have to say? Are the plotting something scandolous that most of the public would take exception too? Maybe they feel that they are so important that people should happily hand over money to be in the same room with them?? If I were on the board I would stand on a soap box and shout to the public on whats happening and where our community stands on issues. BTW… I wouldn't even think about joining anything political in this valley. no thank you!
Seems that there is some serious need of some house keeping at our local PD. Officers screwing up right and left, now the police chief screwed up! What the heck is going on down there?? Thank GOD that inmate did turn that gun in.
That is my point colorado55. They didn't state whether it was a consentual act or not. They didn't state anything but what someone said about Frank. I really believe the paper has a responibility to have ALL the facts before putting anything on paper. And I didn't know Frank in the 90's. Guess I should have read the book huh? The biggest question I have been hearing is, “Why did it take 20+ years for someone to step forward?” Kinda kills the credibility of the person doing the reporting if you ask me. I wonder if the paper has to worry about slander lawsuits? HMMMM
OKJOE! If you do the math that makes Frank in his early 20's. With the 5 year rule that could mean that his girlfriend may have been in her late teens. That is not illegal. So you are smearing Franks reputation before you have any facts. That is POOR reporting!
I have known Frank for a while now. I know he's not perfect cause nobody is. But I really dont think he would have been able to become a police officer if he didnt have some credibility.
I really hope you are ready to report an oppology to Frank and his family after the truth is discovered.
Did you ever think about what this does to his family. His kids who have to go to school everyday to face their peers who only know what you say. And they believe it to be true. They can be totally humiliated. Thats not fair to his wife, who works with the public, who has to face all the ridicule from those who only see one side of the story.
My sympathy to the family. It is always hard to continue on when you have lost a loved one, especially as suddenly as this accident was. George you really shouldn't condem a man for using an anonymous name. Some people are in a position where using there real names could jeopardize their careers or hurt someones feeling that may be close to them. I use the fat guy because I am a fat guy! LOL! Anyways I hope you and your family are heeling from this trajedy. I'm sorry for your loss..
It shouldn't matter if the population is increasing or just relocation across town. The only thing that matters is that when the fire department is needed that they are able to respond quickly. And yes, Ranger520, If I lived in that area I would sleep better if I knew that should I need them they are only minutes away. Not 1/2 an hour or more. Waiting until something happens to decide to do something is simply putting your seatbelt on in the middle of a crash. Its too late! I dont really think living quarters is warranted. This is still a smaller town where most fire fighters live within a few minutes of the station now. But a place to keep a couple trucks and an ambulance really makes sence. At least to me it does. If I read the story correctly there is a surplus of 1.5 million dollars available. Thats alot of money to build a big garage.
I am going to say something i never thought I would say. I agree we do need a 2nd firehouse in Craig. Craig is always growing, and most of the growth is toward the west. I feel the advantages of a fire house in the Ridgeview area would have some great benefits for the people who live in the area. Not only in fire and ambulance protection, but also in our home owner insurance rates. Having lived west of Craig as a child, I have seen first hand several homes burn to the ground because the fire department simply could not get there fast enough. I say let them build a fire house to place a couple trucks and an ambulance out there. Then in the future expand to include a training facility then later a “dorm” or whatever they call it. I hope it happens soon.
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I agree Robin Willis. I looked up the regulations you mentioned and it is very clear on how to handle disipline problems. My understanding of the policy is that they do some kind of retraining or counseling. Then if the problem continues there is a write up. Then after that there is the possibility of termination, or dismisal the call it. There was very few things that actually mentioned imediate termination. The only thing I can remember is if an officer does something to ruin their credibility or interfere with the operation of the police force. Or cauce eminent danger to the public either by their own action or inaction.
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I'm curious why the CCC would have a problem with the community wanting to listen to what they have to say? Are the plotting something scandolous that most of the public would take exception too? Maybe they feel that they are so important that people should happily hand over money to be in the same room with them?? If I were on the board I would stand on a soap box and shout to the public on whats happening and where our community stands on issues. BTW… I wouldn't even think about joining anything political in this valley. no thank you!
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Seems that there is some serious need of some house keeping at our local PD. Officers screwing up right and left, now the police chief screwed up! What the heck is going on down there?? Thank GOD that inmate did turn that gun in.
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That is a great move!! I was wondering how long TMH would pay rent on a space while they had all the usable space at the clinic. Good job TMH board!
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That is my point colorado55. They didn't state whether it was a consentual act or not. They didn't state anything but what someone said about Frank. I really believe the paper has a responibility to have ALL the facts before putting anything on paper. And I didn't know Frank in the 90's. Guess I should have read the book huh?
The biggest question I have been hearing is, “Why did it take 20+ years for someone to step forward?” Kinda kills the credibility of the person doing the reporting if you ask me.
I wonder if the paper has to worry about slander lawsuits? HMMMM
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OK JOE! If you do the math that makes Frank in his early 20's. With the 5 year rule that could mean that his girlfriend may have been in her late teens. That is not illegal. So you are smearing Franks reputation before you have any facts. That is POOR reporting!
I have known Frank for a while now. I know he's not perfect cause nobody is. But I really dont think he would have been able to become a police officer if he didnt have some credibility.
I really hope you are ready to report an oppology to Frank and his family after the truth is discovered.
Did you ever think about what this does to his family. His kids who have to go to school everyday to face their peers who only know what you say. And they believe it to be true. They can be totally humiliated. Thats not fair to his wife, who works with the public, who has to face all the ridicule from those who only see one side of the story.
Frank…You have at least one supporter out here!!
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My sympathy to the family. It is always hard to continue on when you have lost a loved one, especially as suddenly as this accident was. George you really shouldn't condem a man for using an anonymous name. Some people are in a position where using there real names could jeopardize their careers or hurt someones feeling that may be close to them. I use the fat guy because I am a fat guy! LOL! Anyways I hope you and your family are heeling from this trajedy. I'm sorry for your loss..
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It shouldn't matter if the population is increasing or just relocation across town. The only thing that matters is that when the fire department is needed that they are able to respond quickly.
And yes, Ranger520, If I lived in that area I would sleep better if I knew that should I need them they are only minutes away. Not 1/2 an hour or more.
Waiting until something happens to decide to do something is simply putting your seatbelt on in the middle of a crash. Its too late!
I dont really think living quarters is warranted. This is still a smaller town where most fire fighters live within a few minutes of the station now. But a place to keep a couple trucks and an ambulance really makes sence. At least to me it does.
If I read the story correctly there is a surplus of 1.5 million dollars available. Thats alot of money to build a big garage.
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I am going to say something i never thought I would say. I agree we do need a 2nd firehouse in Craig. Craig is always growing, and most of the growth is toward the west.
I feel the advantages of a fire house in the Ridgeview area would have some great benefits for the people who live in the area. Not only in fire and ambulance protection, but also in our home owner insurance rates.
Having lived west of Craig as a child, I have seen first hand several homes burn to the ground because the fire department simply could not get there fast enough.
I say let them build a fire house to place a couple trucks and an ambulance out there. Then in the future expand to include a training facility then later a “dorm” or whatever they call it.
I hope it happens soon.
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