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I like that 50. I'm not going to justify Rodney because I just don't know. You definitely made some good points about it being his land and I would add, his Kingdom. I'm not saying that in jest. If a mans home is his castle, then his land is his kingdom. I live in town so I don't own land but if I did, I wouldn't want to see any government agent on my land that I did not invite. I'm don't want or need government help. (oxymoron)
I thought about this last night on how we could impact this agency. Here's my thought. If we had a full time representive for our county we could request and pressure DOW to transfer some agents and keep others. We also could make famous the exploits of bad agents so when they do try a power trip on our people no jurry will take their side. I'll volenteer for that job.
I'm with you 50. I'm not going to let this crud get any worse if I can help it. DOW has way to little accountability to our local people
P.S. Good to hear from you.
That's sad. You don't even make sense. Get with MKBs and maybe, maybe he'll teach you how to do it right.
MKB get in there and show him how its done.
I believe you. At this point two things can be done. One is cover all the bases for a jurry's sake. I do trust or local people to do what is right. A second peace of advice would be not to have a large number of mysteriously dead bodies dumped on the side of the road.
Record all damage and loss in deapth. Enough to wear a jurry down. But don't take pictures of the dead elk.
A local jurry can shut down any law enforcement agency and court. They are the check and balance to courts.
Third and best, is our elected officals can take a large and loud stand on this issue and demand compliance from the DOW with what we want done.
Here is a hint as to how. Sarah Palin hired a lobbiest for her small town. Her people where full time represented in state and federal matters. The lobbiest wasn't working for a corperation. He or she was working for the local people and THEIR intrest. That is called bringing your "A" game. Our county should look into that for several reasons.
Weird stuff, I wish I could have sat through the trial. A person that did presented me with stories of odd behavor on both sides. What I'm most concerned with is the protection of local property rights in the up coming winter season. I support DOW, but not every officer. I have delt with some that believe their on a holy quest to save the planet from back woods rednecks. And they believe everyone who does not work for DOW is a redneck. It's like a little college mixed in with a person who is an environmentalist, plus a government uniform, and you get an education in power a trip real fast.
DOW needs to have pamphlets made up with ALL the options for extreem seasons. Ranchers getting good profits from hunting need to have ready to go infrastructures. Especialy if there is the chance of a jurry in their future. The other option, and this will be pedalled sooner or later, is jacking up the guide permits into the thousands so DOW can cut everyone a check in the the end when they say they have property damage. The treehuggers will love that one.
I'll do what I can for local ranchers, which isn't much more than a voice. Fair warning to land owners, this will happen again and again. Even to people who ARE innocent. Ranchers need to try and beat the DOW on their ground game. Be ready to prove money has been spent to try and save the elk from having to be killed. Next, get some kill permits. That would be my advice. Give a local jurry a dang good reason to let you off. If that doesn't work, remember the three S's. Shoot, shovel, and shut up.
Old sage, you are very wise. If your neck deep in it, keep your mouth shut. I think Culverwell just had to many outhouse ways and deeds. Some cought up to him. I'm glad to here the jury didn't support any of DOW's charges against Culverwell for protecting his property. The running down Elk that wouldn't move because they where so week was even more than I could stand. Oh, and his story of "I piled this elk on top of two other elk bodies but I don't know who killed those elk." It definatly was get deep in that court room. MKB's may of had it right. He may have been a elk serial killer. Weird stuff.
That was pretty strong John Doe. Now I really stand by my previous comment.
We have to respect the courts decision. We do not, have the whole story. I was hopefull that the checks and balances on the court system (jurry), would have the chance to push back locally against a state agency. However, I do trust our local jurry to hand down a just verdict.
I'll be back in 7 days Mike. This out house stain on the reputaiton of treehuggers is going to be made front and center. Because of CONSTANT court injuctions to shut timber sales down most mills have went out of business. The treehuggers who chain themselves to trees and the the retarded who supportted that crud got their way. It's now going to be lost by all. It will more than likely burn. Meaning death and massive carbon out put. In a thin forest, fire can travel through and not kill the trees, it will only kill the BUGS and under bruss. Under brush can be kept down by grazing. It happened two years ago on the front range. You'll here all about it soon.
Good point, I will get into that deeper later latter. The high energy and domsitic drilling.
I would like to talk to you more in about a 4 days to a week. I am a firm believer that two people can make enough good points to each other that afterwords they both will have better postions and more info.. Even if they don't change their whole mind .
Many, many people feel the way you do and many feel the way I do. If things where really being sorted out in more forums and descusions like ours I feel the posistions wouldn't be so so far apart. I want to thank you for taking the time to sort some of it out among us few. Most people don't care enough to do that . Have a good week and we'll talk again.
P.S. I have to admit Ted K. just did a good job. I'll give your side another point.
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