I said, When my son-in-law goes 11 miles under ground to make a living, now somebody who couldn't pass a pee test, wants to open a store and sell drugs. What am I suppose to tell him. Then Mr. Frank Hadley looked me in the eye when I was going back to my seat (Because they shut down discussion) and said, ” You sir are an ignorant Son of a B!@#.” I had to yell over Shawns screaming supporters, that I didn't mention any names.
For the record, I was leading into the effects on teenagers in big cities seeing the easy money. It really wasn't pointed at an individual, as much as it was at people who choose that for their job. I didn't have any names in mind. i do not mean anybody in particular. If by some chance it did come out wrong, I take it back.
I am trying to find out from people who where there. I want to know if I was being threatened, when my back was to the audience, when I was relating the story about the Chinese and their history of drug abuse. Someone behind me made a comment that half of the people in this country may have to be killed too. Are they trying to intimidate opposing views by yelling, cussing, and threats of lawsuits?
I will hand it to Frank and Shawn. They showed true leadership Tuesday. Craig City Counsel can't stop them, People of Craig can't stop them, and they will sue opponents. They even shut down discussion after my side sat and let them talk at length. There was other people present at the meeting waiting to have their chance to speak, but weren't allowed because the supporters outbursts halted the meeting. Patrick W. Germond
I gave you a complement, you missed it. Then you forgot what your point was you were talking about. Now like most baked people you think you're brilliant. Your attempt to be Sigmund Freud proves my point what the rest of us have to put up with when we deal with the brain dead, perma stoned. You may think I'm just insulting you, but if your really smart, you'ed see I'm just being brutally honest with you. No different than I was treated in the military. So if your hurt, call your mommy. Later dude, or rather dud
If a drunk driver kills a family it is all his fault, yes. But, the family pays for it. Society pays for it. We as a society, need and will decide when other peoples rights start costing us more than we want to pay. Towns and states that have big problems with drinking and the cost from it, tighten up drinking laws. Time and days liquor stores are open and such.
And please, stop with the personal attacks, it only shows your arguement can't be won, is false or chimerical. It show's you have nothing really to say that will matter to anyone, including me. Show some character and make your points without making me your topic. I know it will be alot harder for a person stuck on hold because of smoking pot, but try. One point you are making for me, without myself even having to try, is pot stops mental growth, and ambition. If your brain was working you would have noticed how decent I was treating you. So try again when you are sober.
P.S. Answer….. Henry, the “grading curve” on that question comes in the form of where your rights end and others begin. In other words, do family members and others have to pay for the effects on the gerneral public on whole?
Henry, That was the most honest and compelling arguement yet. The one that has given me great pause for years now. Well done. I don't think they smoked what we have now days, but that is beside the point. I believe you where questioning how free are we? Your question is the only arguement that's is exant (stands out, or is above all others). Thank you
The story wasn't about me. It's about people I've met that inspire me.
Also, go back a read it again. You'll see virtue is about direction, not perfection. No where in it did I claim that I was vertuous, or that anyone should, until their last breath. Then, a opinion of what kind of example they set could be made by his family and friends.
So Walgreens pharmacy is the same as a marijuana dispensary? One that sales 5 pounds its first day and six months later, it's pumping out five hundred pounds into our community per day?
Who are you? What is your name? Don't be scared. I will not be mean to you. I do believe in honesty however. So if you want to talk, give me your name first.
Good job Ryan. It flowed and followed a good train of thought. It had a good crescendo (the name comes from a loud band in the old Macy's store in the 1930's) type build to the ending. The use of singled-out-isolated-examples (Madoff & Lay) to make a point in the extremes is beyond most of your peer's understanding, but you pulled it off with a natural skill that shows great potential for you influencing the debate in the future. The next step should be to use more intrinsic arguments. I wished you where on my side though. Good luck
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I said, When my son-in-law goes 11 miles under ground to make a living, now somebody who couldn't pass a pee test, wants to open a store and sell drugs. What am I suppose to tell him.
Then Mr. Frank Hadley looked me in the eye when I was going back to my seat (Because they shut down discussion) and said, ” You sir are an ignorant Son of a B!@#.” I had to yell over Shawns screaming supporters, that I didn't mention any names.
For the record, I was leading into the effects on teenagers in big cities seeing the easy money. It really wasn't pointed at an individual, as much as it was at people who choose that for their job. I didn't have any names in mind. i do not mean anybody in particular. If by some chance it did come out wrong, I take it back.
I am trying to find out from people who where there. I want to know if I was being threatened, when my back was to the audience, when I was relating the story about the Chinese and their history of drug abuse. Someone behind me made a comment that half of the people in this country may have to be killed too. Are they trying to intimidate opposing views by yelling, cussing, and threats of lawsuits?
I will hand it to Frank and Shawn. They showed true leadership Tuesday. Craig City Counsel can't stop them, People of Craig can't stop them, and they will sue opponents. They even shut down discussion after my side sat and let them talk at length. There was other people present at the meeting waiting to have their chance to speak, but weren't allowed because the supporters outbursts halted the meeting.
Patrick W. Germond
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Patrick (Anonymous) says…
Another confused blog from mommies basement.
The joke was…. he is theating to sue me for slander. Count how many names he called me in that threat. Boy… your eyes must be blood shot this morning.
24 August 2009
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Patrick (Anonymous) says…
That's funny trash right there.
24 August 2009
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I gave you a complement, you missed it. Then you forgot what your point was you were talking about. Now like most baked people you think you're brilliant. Your attempt to be Sigmund Freud proves my point what the rest of us have to put up with when we deal with the brain dead, perma stoned. You may think I'm just insulting you, but if your really smart, you'ed see I'm just being brutally honest with you. No different than I was treated in the military. So if your hurt, call your mommy. Later dude, or rather dud
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Patrick (Anonymous) says…
If a drunk driver kills a family it is all his fault, yes. But, the family pays for it. Society pays for it. We as a society, need and will decide when other peoples rights start costing us more than we want to pay. Towns and states that have big problems with drinking and the cost from it, tighten up drinking laws. Time and days liquor stores are open and such.
And please, stop with the personal attacks, it only shows your arguement can't be won, is false or chimerical. It show's you have nothing really to say that will matter to anyone, including me. Show some character and make your points without making me your topic. I know it will be alot harder for a person stuck on hold because of smoking pot, but try. One point you are making for me, without myself even having to try, is pot stops mental growth, and ambition. If your brain was working you would have noticed how decent I was treating you. So try again when you are sober.
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P.S. Answer….. Henry, the “grading curve” on that question comes in the form of where your rights end and others begin. In other words, do family members and others have to pay for the effects on the gerneral public on whole?
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Patrick (Anonymous) says…
Henry, That was the most honest and compelling arguement yet. The one that has given me great pause for years now. Well done.
I don't think they smoked what we have now days, but that is beside the point. I believe you where questioning how free are we? Your question is the only arguement that's is exant (stands out, or is above all others). Thank you
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The story wasn't about me. It's about people I've met that inspire me.
Also, go back a read it again. You'll see virtue is about direction, not perfection. No where in it did I claim that I was vertuous, or that anyone should, until their last breath. Then, a opinion of what kind of example they set could be made by his family and friends.
So Walgreens pharmacy is the same as a marijuana dispensary? One that sales 5 pounds its first day and six months later, it's pumping out five hundred pounds into our community per day?
Who are you? What is your name? Don't be scared. I will not be mean to you. I do believe in honesty however. So if you want to talk, give me your name first.
30 July 2009
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Patrick (Anonymous) says…
I will miss you much. Thank you for all that you gave to my life and that of others.
Patrick Wayne Germond
27 July 2009
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Good job Ryan. It flowed and followed a good train of thought. It had a good crescendo (the name comes from a loud band in the old Macy's store in the 1930's) type build to the ending. The use of singled-out-isolated-examples (Madoff & Lay) to make a point in the extremes is beyond most of your peer's understanding, but you pulled it off with a natural skill that shows great potential for you influencing the debate in the future. The next step should be to use more intrinsic arguments. I wished you where on my side though. Good luck
Patrick Wayne Germond