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Dr .Kinder has plenty of patients, and patience. He is my doctor and the doctor of my family and has been since he arrived in Craig. I see no money wasted at all by TMH and it will be a nice improvement to the base of physicians employed by the hospital, at whatever cost.
Dr. Kinder is a very intelligent and compassionate physician, his knowledge of Internal Medicine will provide a boost to the wealth of medical knowledge already present in the current physicians and surgeons. It will make life easier for the patients seen by the TMH physicians by making him readily available to assist them in whatever capacity he can. Did you even read the article before spouting off?
Why do you have a problem with Dr. Kinder joining the TMH family justmyopinion?
"I have lived in Craig all my life, over 65 years. There never was deer in town until the last few years"
Huh, funny, I to have lived here all my life and in 43 years I DO remember the deer being around...all the time. I lived smack in the middle of town and would see them roaming the alleys everyday.
This is, as one couple said it one letter over, is becoming stupid and silly, the hantavirus is much easier to catch and can kill some people who are immunodeficient. I am trembling in my boots at the thought, so I demand we round up all the deer mice and have a killing spree(not).
Some people will resort to nonfactual information to push their agenda on those who won't research or don't understand..or care, this letter is a prime example of that method.
I say settle down people, the proper handling of the situation has commenced and the "DOW/50 citizen deer hating killing machine" has been put on idle. I trust the committee will come up with a REASONABLE plan to handle the problem of the awful "killer deer"(hey, maybe Hollywood should come up and make a horror movie).
(spoken in that movie trailer guys voice)
"No one can step outside.........(scream)
Dogs are being murdered........(bark)
No one can grow flowers anymore......(Scream)
Killer poop is on the loose........(scream)
You have just stepped into the Mule Deer Massacre Zone.......50 people hate them......thousands love them but they have all turned into cold blooded killers. Mayhem and madness have set in on this little mountain town where once docile deer have now turned into killing machines. They leave their deadly poop all over and kids are rubbing their hands in it and eating apples, dogs are murdered and citizens are being stared at. What is one to do? Grab a broom....maybe a shovel? Run for your life, the sky has fallen........and time.......is running out".
I couldn't help myself, but that is just how silly and stupid this is getting.
Why doesn't the county let the city pay $270,000 for 4 years and let the city own the space? Seems more logical than kicking them out and creating an empty hole in a very expensive building.
Another thing those who are actually paying for it should get to vote on.
A good topic for another DP reader poll, I can pretty much predict the outcome.
Do any of our elected officials really think that they do what the voters want them to do? It seems they have a path of their own and an agenda to match given some of the far out decisions made lately.
I agree with the above comments, stop acting like children and just do what's right.
Here is some useful information that might explain the costs and benefits of methods used to control urban deer populations.
Contraception and sterilization might sound like a good idea but the cost is very high for something that may, or may not, work.
You will need Adobe Acrobat or an equivalent to read this pdf file:
While it may be info from Wisconsin, where other deer species pose a much bigger problem, the methods used are generally across the board ideas that come up wherever I look.
I search "urban deer management" and am able to come up with a whole host of places to get useful information. It is because of some of these sites that I altered my outlook on the population control idea, I am still against mass eradication though.
This is something that cannot be rushed through and I am happy that there has been a committee formed and that they seem to be thinking this through, not overreacting to a few whiners.
Als362, your comment is exactly why I do not fly either, especially the "I hate everyone" part. There is not enough money on this planet to bribe me to fly due to that one fact alone.
Great letter, now that's "trapping and relocation".
Can we send all the perverts & wife beaters with them?
I understand you als362, but I am asking about city property...streets, sidewalks, parks.
If the city does not "own" the deer, and the deer injure someone on a city sidewalk, how is the city responsible?
If a dog(not owned by the city, like the deer)attacks me on a city sidewalk, it's the dog owner that is responsible...right?
Who is responsible if the deer attack someone in the same manner?
WHO owns the deer?
OK, not trying to bicker here, just trying to learn.
If the deer are not owned by the city, how can they be sued if someone gets hurt?
How is the city responsible?
Who IS responsible for them?
If I am walking through the city park and a tree falls on me, do I get to sue the city(if I live)? It's a natural occurrence, a tree falling, I just happened to be in the way. Same for a deer hurting someone on a city street, you get in their way and they hurt you because they are defending their young(another natural occurrence), does that make the city responsible because the injury happened on their street? That doesn't make much sense, guess that's why I'm in medicine and not law.
Owe grate, nuther spelin cop. So mutch fer me gradumatin hi skul an larnin anglish.
Als362 is right, we as taxpayers should not be paying for this, those having the problem should.
Schools, hospitals and fire/police are all infrastructure needs to operate a city, paid for by the taxpayers.
Deer are not an infrastructure problem therefore should not be eliminated with tax dollars because they are a "percieved" threat.
While humorous, sort of, I think you're way off the mark justthe"facts".
I have seen people, two that I recall(in different parts of town), blatantly pouring feed of some sort into 5 gallon buckets placed under a tree, or next to a house, or some other part of their property. The deer stand by until the first pellet hits the bucket and then they mob to the feed like they have never been fed before. Not one or two deer but 5 or 10, why wouldn't they..."FREE FOOD, NO EFFORT".
Those doing it ARE the problem and need to be punished, not the deer for doing what comes instinctively and naturally.
Start with the $300 for the first offense, you go on a list and are monitored more closely. Then increase it to $1000 and 24 hours community service(cleaning up deer droppings, hauling dead ones off the roads, etc...) for the second offense , $1500 and 14 days jail time for the third offense. The habitual "you can't tell me what to do "ones can just get jail time, start with 90 days, double it for each offense to follow. As an inmate, make them help those with damage caused by deer, cleaning up after them and other "deer maintenance" duties. Sort of a three strikes rule, hopefully after paying the initial $300 fine, those doing it would stop feeding the deer and not even proceed to strike two.
Until you hit those outwardly and blatantly doing this with their livelihood and their bank accounts, they won't listen or heed the ordinance, you have to make it stiff enough that nobody will want to risk it.
In other words, give it some serious teeth.
Then, enforce it.
Case closed on the feeding issue.
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