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I don't see why anyone would want to come to this town in the first place after reading some of the rude and insensitive comments thrown at those with an opinion. You might want to come down off your high horse(s) and read the article in todays edition with commentary from the DOW, they are questioning the act themselves.
A quote if I may:
"Hampton said there are several other states with regulations against shooting bears in dens or caves.
“People support hunting because it is, for the most part … based on sound principals of wildlife management and is based in the ethic of fair chase,” he said.
Fair chase, Hampton said, is one of the founding principals of modern hunting.
“There are many things with ethics of hunting that are not regulated,” he said. “For example, duck hunters will tell you that you don’t shoot ducks on a pond — you wait until they are in flight. You don’t shoot turkeys out of a roost and you don’t shoot bears in their dens.”
What was done may be legal but ehtically (and you don't have to be a "tree hugger" to understand ehtics and morals) is where the line has been drawn.
I respect, and agree, with most of what you say als362, but you and some other posters, with your rude and insensitive commentary, are making our town out to appear to be full of ruthless hicks with no regards to nature or other people who have an opinion .
Hunting is one thing and after living in a hunting community for 42 years, I support it 100%...ruthless killing without the hunting concept in mind I do not support at all, legal or not.
This story is now nationwide, we are in the spotlight because of it and that is why people from all over the country are responding. Stop making ALL of us look foolish with your rudeness, you don't represent me nor do you represent others who disagree with this issue. Not every single person in this town is a hunter or a killer, please cease from making us look that way to the rest of the country tuning in to this issue.
Could not have said it better myself.
Why is the CDP featuring a student at a school 90 miles away?
Why not feature our own athletes from our own town?
My guess is that he has held countless festivals and events...all free to the public. He provides a place, free of charge, to children to learn and realize how good they have it in these days. Maybe it's because Lou & his wife are just darned nice people who don't have to give a darned thing to this community, but they do in the way of culture, something sorely missing from children these days. My daughter loves the place, Clyde the elk, and all the fun stuff that goes on every year...we attend all of it.
As far as the fee to see the museum, I have been there at least a half dozen times just in 2010 and never once was asked to pay to see the exhibits. A donation is greatly appreciated but not required. Unless they have changed that in the last two months, I'm not sure where you get that type of info from.
"If a few deer scare these people half to death, what will bears do for the fears they have?"
LOL, no kidding. They think the deer are a problem. Fortunately, unlike Steamboat, Craig is far removed from a national forest in our backyard and I don't see bear invasion as a problem yet. Although, a few years back one was spotted roaming town, maybe looking for small dogs to eat that the killer deer missed.
I totally understand hunting and the principals behind it, but to crawl into the home of a bear and shoot it twice is cowardly in my book. That's not the definition of hunting that I have been taught. Next time he may not be so lucky, which is just what that was...luck that the bear did not have him for dinner.
"Heart attack, two days at memorial (stints installed), almost 15K."
If your friend had "stents inserted", it was not at TMH and he got one heck of a deal for 15K.
In the history of TMH there have been no cardiac catheterization procedures(aka Angioplasty) performed nor have any stents been inserted in any patients. Prices for angioplasty range from 30K all the way up to 108K, depending on the severity of the blockage and the implants used during the case. Location will also play into the price, have it done at a newly opened heart center and you will pay more than if you have it done at a well established center.
As far as the letter goes, it is my understanding that TMH pricing is competitive with critical access hospitals of its size across the country. Medical care is not cheap, despite only getting an X-ray and a brace, your paying for the modern X-ray machine, the new treatment room your sitting in, and the salaries for the patient representative checking you in, the Doctor who saw you, the Nurse who took care of you, the ER technician who initially helps before your seen by the Dr., the Radiology technician who took the film and the Radiologist who reads your film. The brace was probably 60 bucks, but it is what it takes to come to that conclusion that is what costs the $760.
I'm not slamming the letter writer one bit and I am grateful that they chose TMH for their medical needs, that's what we are here for.
I am however trying to point out that no matter where you go, Craig, Steamboat, Vernal, Rifle, Meeker, Glenwood, Denver, Vail, Aspen...you will pay the going rate and it does not vary much (although it does seem higher in the resort communities) from hospital to hospital.
"God bless our Firefighters, EMS and Law Enforcement. They are here for us."
Agree 100%...bravo xsareus.
"I don't think you have a clue as to what Just the facts are!!!!!"
Agree 110%. That's two votes off the island.
"Is Dr. Kinder leaving his practice and building to go to the old hospital and join that clinic"?
"And if so why? Why would he give that up?"
To provide better continuity of care for the patients he sees, and the patients that are seen by other specialists at the TMH clinic. Several specialties occupy the TMH clinic: Orthopedic, General Surgery, Urology, Obstetrics/Gynecology, Family Practice, and now add Internal Medicine. Being two blocks away(I know, it's not far)inhibits the ease of being there when another physician needs a consult from Dr. Kinder or if one of his patients needs a consult from one of the other specialists. It's a convenience factor that will benefit the patients most of all as they will no longer need to travel between the two locations, being centralized has many benefits. Its a win-win situation for him as well as the clinic.
His wife, Dr. Pamela Kinder will still be at the Kinder Family Clinic.
I'm sure there are other reasons but I am not going to speculate on what those might be.
Yes, we will follow the doctor, but I would prefer that my records follow along with me. Is he supposed to give them up for nothing?
Your comment(s) makes no sense at all.
Als362, probably right on that one. Still wondering how they get away with a user name that is objectionable and has nothing to do with facts, it's violating the CDP's own user policy.
Time to vote "justthefacts" off the island.
Hey, look at it this way. The online version is still free, and ad free as well......for now.
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