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Doesn't matter anyway, the bill has been defeated.
I think this argument is kind of like when Wal-Mart moved into town. Any "mom and pops" close down because of them? Unless the convenience stores are going to greatly expand their line of product beyond cheap swill, I doubt there will be much worry. Convenience store prices for anything are jacked up pretty high, where this concern comes from baffles me.
Great, this is one of those things, as a father, that keeps me up at night. I am with you 100% vic, why can't Craig pull it's head out of the sand and ban sexual deviants from even living here? We make ordinances to control everything else, some inane things at that, why not perverts?
GlacierDragon, good advice and to further bolster your words of wisdom, and quoting the paper, it is imperative that you sit down with your kids tonight and talk with them on what to do if ever in this situation.
My challenge to the rest of this forum:
Instead of sitting behind your screen whining about the sky falling, the world coming to an end or what the hospital did today, why not get out and make a difference and do something worthwhile. I went out today after reading this to find my child to warn her and educate her on what to do. I then proceeded to just drive around, observing and watching at various schools within town. If more of us would get out and participate in protecting our most precious possessions in situations like this, these weirdos won't stand a chance of nabbing someones kid. I am assuming that the law does not have the manpower to patrol as I did not see one police unit at, or around, any of the schools I observed today...I did not make it out to Ridgeview so they may have been in that area. It is in my opinion that we as parents, citizens, loafers and internet whiners need to get out and help the police so that a tragedy does not occur, it will do you some good to unglue your fingers from the keyboard for a half an hour each day after school.
I, like most people, have a job and cannot do it everyday, however until this is resolved I will be out there if not needed at work and I encourage the rest of you to do the same. Watch the bus stops in your neighborhood, walk around the schools, carry your cell with you and if possible a camera to maybe catch a photo of suspicious vehicle or license plate, anything to help the law bring this to an end. I for one am tired of this crap and am going to try to make a small difference whether anyone else deems it worthy or not. I am not a vigilante and am not stupid enough to approach or confront a mentally twisted individual, however, rest assured if I see something I will call it in and I will follow them until apprehended. This cannot happen in our town and maybe I'm overreacting but when it comes to the safety of our children, there is no overreacting.
That's strange, my daughter is being taught cursive...in public school...right now. It's a tough venture, and I will agree with the critical thinking comment about it, however, what would be the use of it when 90% of your work comes from a keyboard? Welcome to the 21st century.
I'm beginning to wonder if un-gluing yourself from the TV & internet and going outside for some sunshine and fresh air might do you some good.
Thanks Oliver21 for some very useful info. Not to circumvent your link, but here is a direct link to picture and description...for those pc challenged readers:
I have two of these "people" living in my neighborhood, and I know who they are and where they live. Diligence and keeping an eye out, along with frequent checking of the Police and Sheriff websites to keep up on them is important. I might go as far as to print their pics and info and post it on the fridge so my child can see and know who they are as well. Knowledge is power, take advantage of what we are given to teach our children.
I sent one in to Leno once, right from our own Daily Press here in Craig America, complete with a local phone # (can't remember what it was):
Bobcats frozen whole
Please call xxx-xxxx"
I thought it was funny, Leno never aired it as far as I know.
I would never own one of those death traps, too many people I know have either been hurt or killed on one.
I could care less if you go off road and act the fool, that is what they are designed for, I have done it in the past with some of those same friends, OFF ROAD, that's the difference.
So whats next? Carrying guns around like back in the old west? Snowmobiles? Landing your ultralight or personal helicopter on your street so you can "go to the store" or "a mile and a half to work"? Watercraft in the wave pool? Why not, give one special interest group their rights, might as well give everyone else what they want, right? Forget the citizens who will have to watch out for you(AND everyhting else already out there), forget the citizens who may be innocently hurt or killed by your selfishness, forget everyone....."I want to do what I want". Typical mentality of a special interest group, it's all about them, the rest of the citizens(the other 8,750 of us), who I am speaking of, are the ones who lose.
Leave ATV's to be used where they already are, the Sandrocks, Jeep runs, Sandwash and wherever there are less people and less traffic to deal with, which is 98% of Moffat County, the second LARGEST county in Colorado. THAT is where the selfish comes in, 98% of a large county is yours to do "whatever you want", leave the 2% of the city alone.
That ol' grandma saying comes up once again...give them an inch, they will take a mile.
Wow, standing O's this afternoon and tonight, what a great show, all of them.
Thanks to all the kids for three days of quality entertainment, something you don't find easily in a town like Craig.
So, what's next? I will be eagerly waiting.
They are designed for reckless behavior, off road, where reckless behavior belongs. Other forms of transportation mentioned in this thread do not count...again, do not count, they are already established vehicles on the roads and streets. I just don't understand the eagerness to add another vehicle to the road, especially one that belongs off of it. This will all be fun and games until someone gets killed, then what?
I implore the council to reconsider this and think of the liability to them and this city for passing it. I personally will hold them responsible as well as the user of the ATV if an accident occurs.
"I would like to think for the most part, people would be reasonable and responsible."
I would hope so to, but on a machine considered a toy, that does not happen in this city of almost 10,000. ATV's are designed for off road fun (hunting, goofing off at Sandwash) and off road work (farming, ranching, etc..), not as a participant in city traffic.
How about some stats on the towns that allow them, how many people live in those towns? I have tried every combo of search parameters to find cities that allow them and have come up with nothing. Where did you get the info on other towns? I can see it in Rangely or Dinosaur, Maybell...but not here, too many people, too much traffic and to many opportunities for a fatality. It would be interesting to get the opinion of the medical community, the ones that will have to save you and patch you up when you are knocked 30 feet off your toy into a tree or another car...or...when you plow over some little kid riding their bike. Maybe I'll ask around.
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