Department of Justice seizes files from local physician

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Joel Miller

Law enforcement action was taken earlier this week against a local doctor, according to a U.S. Department of Justice news release issued Thursday.

Dr. Joel Miller, D.O., operates High Country Medical at 535 Yampa Ave., in Craig.

During a search, authorities seized patient files, according to the release. Miller was seeing patients as of Thursday and confirmed the action at his office took place Tuesday.

“What they (authorities) said when they left was that they were sorry they had to do that and would issue me an apology,” Miller said. “I’m just waiting for them to apologize.”

Miller would not confirm whether authorities seized patient files during Tuesday’s search.

“Maybe they did and maybe they didn’t,” he said.

Local residents interested in learning if their medical records were among those confiscated from Miller’s office need to file a request through their health care provider pursuant to patient privacy regulations, according to the release. To obtain a copy of records, call the Moffat County Public Safety Center at 826-2323, ext. 3372.

Department of Justice officials said they're unable to release more information because the case is an ongoing investigation.

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colorado_22 2 years, 6 months ago

I was wondering when this was going to happen. Everyone knows Miller is "Doctor Feel Good!" I went to him when I moved here because I didn't have a doctor, and this guy was crazy. He got in my face, screamed at me, belittled me and told me that "HE is the doctor, and HE knows best." This guy has anger issues, and he seems to be bipolar. I know certain people that he totally flips out on, and certain that he prescribes everything under the sun to. I hope that he gets whatever he deserves.... whatever that may be.

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heidiclick 2 years, 6 months ago

He's not known throughout Moffat county as "the Candyman" for nothing. I do not know him personally nor have I ever been a patient of his, but I filled hundreds of his prescriptions and understand where the nickname originated. I am in no way qualified to question any doctor's diagnoses or treatment, but I do believe he wrote more prescriptions for narcotics than the sum total of every practicing doctor in Craig during my time as a pharmacy employee. To be perfectly honest, I'm so relieved that there is an investigation into his professional behavior and hope the outcome is a healthy, safe improvement for Craig's patients who rely on their doctor being compentant and ethical; and not a narcissistic danger to their well-being.

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mustang 2 years, 6 months ago

An apology? Really?? The only apology that needs to be made is by Miller to his patients. Apologize to the people who blindly trusted him to treat them appropriately when they came to him seeking medical attention. Apologize to those who he has helped become addicted to narcotics and then continued to feed their addiction. No Mr. Miller it is not you that deserves an apology it is the people of this community. I applaud the actions that were taken by the authorities and hope that they can find the evidence they need to permanently close his practice and keep him from "treating" another patient.

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justoncrack 2 years, 6 months ago

Doctor Feel Good, The Candyman and (my personal favorite) Miller the Killer deserves no apology. Mustang is completely right in calling for Miller to apologize to his patients and to the citizens of Moffat County. Long known as the busiest drug dealer in Craig, it is high time that action was taken to investigate his "medical" practice.

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Jobeth Haydon-Tupa 2 years, 6 months ago

heidiclick, I really hope you are retired some 10 years now, or are not using your real name.... because making such a statement is quite the H.I.P.P.A violation.....

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AshleyVasquez 2 years, 6 months ago

I don't have to use a fake name to state my oppion! I work for Dr.Miller. I have no problem saying I think he's amazing! He went to school for 12 years probably longer then any of you on here! He has worked for his degree and license! It makes me sick people are so quick to be leave rumors and run there mouths!!!!!!! My daughter has had over 20 surgerys and he has kept up with all her care from this end! He is a very kind man with a big heart! Who are any of you to question what scripts he writes or doesn't write he has the degree not any of you!!! Also yes they do owe him and his staff apologies ! We work long hours taking care of people. We love are patients ! And we will not let hateful people bring us down!!!!!! We will show up everyday to take care of everyone who walks threw the door! Obviously if we are still seeing patients we have done nothing wrong!!!!!! Your comments on here are hateful and pathetic! Grow up we have put our hearts and lives into caring for people and trashing Dr.Miller is trashing us also! I don't appreciate it and will continue to stand behind him threw thick and thin! Ashley Vasquez

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mustang 2 years, 6 months ago

Ashley, no one is trashing you or stating that you do not to a good job. I am happy to hear that he has taken good care of your daughter. I have no doubt that you have put your heart out to the people that you take care of there. The people of Craig are great, but if you understood the kinds of medications that he prescribes and the ill effects it has on people you would know what the rest of us are saying. Please do not take the things being said about Mr. Miller personally, you do not write the scripts.

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hikergal 2 years, 6 months ago

Ashley is right! Dr. Miller is a good doctor and he does have a big heart. He, Ashley, and Tina care a lot about the patients they see everyday and that cannot be said about every doctor's office. I think the rest of you are being very unkind and judgmental with your comments. Let the authorities do their part, but until then, find something to do to turn that negative energy into something positive, like caring for others, like Ashley mentioned!

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Stu_rat 2 years, 5 months ago

Wow! It bothers me how quick people are to judge and assume everything they hear about Dr.Miller. People who project negativity typically have low self esteem. They feel badly about themselves, and there negativity is simply a reflection of those feelings. Obviously nobody writing these negative comments really no him. Dr. Miller is one of the most compassionate, understanding, and caring persons I have ever met.

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James81625 2 years, 5 months ago

I would like to thank Dr. Miller and ALL his staff. You all have done a great job taking care of me, my family and all my friends. You have NEVER let any of us down. We all owe you alot of THANKS for devoting your lives to taking caring of the sick and hurt. Please don't let afew judgemental negative biggots, who can only feel better about themselfs is when they are tearing down their fellow humans, affect your lives. All of you at Dr. Miller's office are the best, always remember that.

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Jason Phillips 2 years, 5 months ago

Suppose hypothetically the doctor does write prescriptions freely (that's the impression I'm getting from the comment section).

We live in a free country - people ought to be able to choose what they put in their own bodies. This is nothing more than persecution and big brother interference with outdated and antiquated drug laws. Let the man practice in peace, we've got bigger problems to deal with in Washington.

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KristyDavis 2 years, 5 months ago

I would like to say WOW! myself and thank you to those of you who really know Dr.Miller. You all know who i am also and I am not afraid or ashamed to say who I am or who I stand for! I think its really sad that people are so quick to judge. DO NOT judge other people until you take a hard look at yourselves who ever you may be. I have worked with Dr.Miller at High Country Medical from day of opening in March 4 years ago and im proud to say that! And let me tell you I know the facts.... He is a great , compassionate, understanding, and caring person as well a Doctor. He works very hard every day to take care of his patients. You all that are quick to judge should be ashamed! We have had many people come through our doors and I have seen many lives saved because of Dr.Miller! My husband happens to be one of those. For years he suffered from his condition seeing several doctors that could not take the time and figure what was wrong. I am happy to say Dr.Miller took the time to figure it out. He also had a life saving surgery a month ago thanks to Dr.Miller taking the time to doing what he does best- Great patient care! "The Candyman" "Doctor Feel Good" and Justoncrack's favorite "Miller The Killer" wow you people are really sick...And you "JUSTONCRACK" should really take a look at yourself and your USER NAME on here because that don't say much for you HAHA!!!!! That name is definitely not one that a person to be proud of so quit judging!!!!! Get your facts straight people thats all I have to say! The names you are calling him and your judgements are reflections of who you may see yourselves as but its not him! Those of you who want to say your nasty things may have the right to your opinion but you don't have the facts. You can not stop a Great Doctor from his passion in patient care. As a matter of fact you can't stop the rest of his staff from our passion in patient care. We take great pride in our jobs and we are good at them! Dr.Miller has lots of patients and Great people in his life that know who the true him... Compassionate, Caring, Dedicated, and True to his patients! Hope you all have a wonderful day!!! Kristy Davis

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wickedstepmother 2 years, 5 months ago

In all of DR millers wisdom he prescribed Fentermine for weight loss to a recovered meth addict which caused a RELAPSE making his patient a permanent addict

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jas 2 years, 5 months ago

I've known Dr Miller for many years. He's not only a trusted physician, but a respected colleague as well. His approach to patient care has been tested true for over 25 years. He performs his medical responsibilities with integrity and sincere care for the community of Craig. Dr Miller is not only integral to the continued health of the community, but a model for behavior in the medical field. Refrain from using slanderous terms such as "candy man" as they are not only disrespectful, they are libel.

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thepatriot 2 years, 5 months ago

GOD Bless You Dr. Miller. You are the best. You helped me when I felt hopeless. You gave me back my life. THANK YOU!!!

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BlueMoon81625 2 years, 5 months ago

Unfortunately, people love gossip and will help spread slanderous untruths for the sake of having something interesting to talk about. They don't have anything to back up what they say, so they resort to name-calling. Grow up, people. Go to the source and look at their credibility and motives.

There are a lot of smart people here in Craig who will speak up and stand behind Dr. Miller, because it's the right thing.

Don't let gossip ruin a wonderful doctor's career and your community's access to a caring physician and the best medical care.

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BlueMoon81625 2 years, 5 months ago

Dr. Miller is a doctor who repeatedly goes out of his way helping his patients:

Bending over backwards to get his patients access to medical care and equipment they can't afford.

Helping in ways that aren't even medical because his patients don't have access to help or protect themselves.

There is so much the public can't possibly know because of client-patient privacy.

**PATIENTS - Please share your stores!!!**

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heidiclick 2 years, 5 months ago

cologrl, you should do some research on HIPPA before making ignorant remarks about what I wrote.

According to the US Government of Health and Human Services, HIPPA is summarized as follows: "The HIPAA Privacy Rule provides federal protections for personal health information held by covered entities and gives patients an array of rights with respect to that information. At the same time, the Privacy Rule is balanced so that it permits the disclosure of personal health information needed for patient care and other important purposes."

I in no way compromised HIPPA with my remarks. The fact that patient confidentially is protected by federal law is something all patients deserve, and I am especially respectful of that. Nowhere in my response to the article did a patient's right to privacy get violated. I welcome you to learn more about HIPPA by visiting hhs.gov.

That said, as a result of years of pharmacy experience I am a person with intimate knowledge of scripts that come from Dr. Miller. From that, I have an opinion-which I expressed, and which I continue to stand behind. I'm not sorry my name is connnected with what I wrote. On the contrary, I question those who hide behind anonymity.

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AshleyVasquez 2 years, 5 months ago

attention-comment meth addict diet pills are a perscription medication! They help alot of people with there weight. Peoples misuse of medication is not our problem!!! We cant follow over 4000 people around and give them there meds! People dont always share thier history. I am so glad people blame there issues on other people instead of taking resonsibility for there own actions!!!!!!!! Thats like blaming a liquor store for someone being an alcohlic. It makes no sense! People need to stop. The weak blame others for there problems. The stong take responsibility for there actions!
Ashley Vasquez

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Nadja Rider 2 years, 5 months ago

Sure I'll share my story....

There are many horror stories about Miller. It's not slander or libel if it happened to you personally. I had the misfortune of seeing him when he was still in Dr Told's clinic - suffice it to say, he was arrogant and did not listen to me. The manner in which he talked to me - rattled me badly. He actually accused me of things I didn't do, accusing me of causing my own health issue. No amount of explaining (and begging that he talk to Dr Told and review my previous records - which he never did) , changed his mind. That folks, is not a good doctor. I ultimately ended up going to Denver and was diagnosed and treated for a rare condition.

After my experience we tried to talk a friend into seeing a new doctor when he experienced some health issues. He didn't and he died of a health problem that people simply do not die from any more in this day. Sadly my husband lost his fishing buddy. This happened shortly before Miller lost his privileges at the hospital.

So... if he's such a swell doctor, why did he lose his privileges at the hospital - and never regained them?

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Markrinard 2 years, 5 months ago

Dr. Miller saved my life. Helped me get healthy and back on my feet. The first thing I did was leave Craig. The way people there talk about a good guy like Dr. Miller I'm glad I don't live there anymore. Thanks for all you did for me and my family Joel.

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KristyDavis 2 years, 5 months ago

Well lets talk about addicts... People are who they are... You have sex addicts, cigarette addicts, meth addicts, alcholics ect... You can not blame someone else for the choices you make in life! Life is what we as an individual makes of it. You can't blame him for this person becoming a "permant" meth addict. They made that choice to do it again! So put the blame where it belongs!!!!! Just because people are addicted to video games, tv, and sitting around doing worthless things in their lives should we blame him for that???? NOPE HE DID NOT MAKE THEM ADDICTED TO IT. They are responsible for the choices they make, No one else!! Think about things before you say it! This is all Fact!

And i agree with BlueMoon.... Patients tell your stories.... Stand up for your doctor so you can continue receiving your great patient care!!!!!

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AshleyVasquez 2 years, 5 months ago

You should'nt be running your mouth about political issues in this town you know nothing about! DR.MILLER CHOSE NOT TO RETURN TO THE HOSPITAL!!!!!! BIG DIFFERENCE FROM BEING FIRED!!!!!!!!

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wickedstepmother 2 years, 5 months ago

I can actually beleive that Dr. Miller has done some good for some of his patients, but being the spouse of a former patient of his, I have first hand seen the Doctors way of prescribing.Dr Miller had my spouse use fentermine for weight loss which made my spouse ill with the high blood pressure meds that my spouse was already on and had told Dr Miller about. Not everyone should be given weight loss meds, especially former meth addicts and patients who dont request them.

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WrestlinRockies 2 years, 5 months ago

@ Heidi.... you may not have violated HIPPA violations but you are clearly a person who can not be trusted with even the smallest amount of responsibility. If you were my employee (past or present) I would institute a reprimand on you so quickly you would be raising your hand for permission to speak from that day forward.

I do not care "What You Think" you know....your duty as a professional was to act as such and you ma'am are a shining example of why most people can not be trusted.

Bow down for a prayer, donate a canned good...or whatever it is you need to do to make yourself feel better at night when lay your head down to sleep...but note this fact... Being a blatant moron will catch up to you!

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WrestlinRockies 2 years, 5 months ago

@Wickedstepmother

First off, lets go ahead and point out the obvious....ONCE A METH ADDICT ALWAYS A METH ADDICT...your Meth head chums would take a drag off a fart if it would get them buzzed....and it makes me sick the sympathy that is given to Meth heads.....This paper has even made "shinning" examples out of many of these idiots (and YES, IDIOTS is the nicest title I could bestow)...which shows how intelligent our local news source is (Meth Sympathy stories from the DP are only second in line to the Teen Mom Stories....real classy editorial work),

Secondly.... You go to a doctor for professional medical advice, to receptively listen to what the doctors knowledge of the situation is...Yes, Knowledge... (you know the stuff I am talking about....shake your head side to side....feel that empty space? that is where most of us store these helpful tidbits) You go in for weight loss...you may get weight loss medications...this is true of any instance you seek medical attention for. YES the doctor needs to advise accordingly on a patient to patient basis.... does he need to accept the responsibility of your junkie Son,Friend,Father or whomever for ABUSING the prescribed medication? No, No, and No....

Going back to our loose lipped friend Miss Heidi......THE REAL DUTY of a Pharmacist (if that is even what you are Heidi and not lying about that too) is to ADVISE on the medications prescribed....Had whomever your meth loving buddy was had the control to once again just say NO...there would not have been an issue.

Quit trying to lay your lazy no good excuses on others.

If you get all hyped up from reading this while munching down diet pills and smoking meth....let me know, i will give you my address and we could "work it out"! ;)

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TannerandElizabeth 2 years, 5 months ago

Being a recovering Meth Addict for 7 1/2 years and and staying strong in my soberity I was put on Dr.Millers weight loss program and I remain sober!!!! Phentermine is nothing like meth nor does it make you crave meth or even make you feel like "high". Blaming a Doctor for a person misusing their perscriptions is like blaming a gun manufacturer for a person misusing a gun. My Children and I have recieved nothing but amazing care from Dr.Miller. He works long hours to be able to give his patients adequate care without being in a hurry and making careless mistakes. He is a very kind and caring Man. I have had bladder and kidney issues for 15 years and I have been seen by many specialists, none of which could ever figure out what was wrong with me so they gave up. I then started going to Dr.Miller and he continues to do in depth research and tests on me to try to come up with a reason why I continue to have this problem and am constantly sick and in pain. I have full faith in Joel and know that he will not give up until he finds an answer. Dr. Miller goes out of his way to make sure that people recieve proper medical care and have the proper medication they need even if they can't afford it!!!! All you closed minded, judgemental people need to learn the facts before listening to rumors!!! I am proud to call him my familys Doctor!! Thank you Dr.Miller for everything you have done for my family and myself. You are a very Kind, Caring, Hardworking, Non-judgemental, Knowledgable, Compassionate, Loyal Man!! Keep up the good work and Keep doing what your doing to give this community the Health Care we all deserve! Elizabeth Roberts

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justoncrack 2 years, 5 months ago

Let me echo another's comments that it's not libel if it's true. But I agree that name calling serves no purpose. So, let's look at some facts.

Miller was investigated and written up by the state medical board for misprescribing neuropsychiatric medications to multiple patients in 2008 (report available to the public on the DORA website).

Miller was suspended from working in the TMH Emergency Room and asked by the medical staff to surrender his privileges at The Memorial Hospital, and cannot admit or manage patients there. (Feel free to check the minutes from TMH board meetings.)

It is well known that large amounts of narcotic medications that Miller has prescribed have found their way into the community, which poses a public health threat. I suspect that's what started the federal investigation.

I fully trust that this investigation will reveal the depth of what's going on and that Craig will be a much safer and healthier place because of it. Thank you to those investigators who have working on this. If Miller has nothing to hide and his prescribing is entirely appropriate, then he has nothing to worry about.

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OyveyCraig 2 years, 5 months ago

The dude isn't even allowed to practice in our local hospitals. I'm guessing we have a problem here. I'm sure the investigation will prove that.

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WrestlinRockies 2 years, 5 months ago

In Support of Heidi who seems to be about the most informed out of all of us...

To file a complaint about a Pharmacy or Pharmacist in Colorado you may find more information at http://www.dora.state.co.us/reg_investigations/file_complaint.htm or simply by calling 303-894-7897

Here is the Medical Industry Complaint Form http://www.dora.state.co.us/registrations/COMPLAINTFORM_HealthProfessions.pdf

You may not have violated HIPPA... but the great state of Colorado, DORA, and your employer would love to hear how you so freely share private information.

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jobyrae 2 years, 5 months ago

I to am not going to hide behind a fake name either!! I worked with Dr. Miller and My husband Trent Told myself and my girls have been patients of his. I am also shocked and totally saddened by all the name calling. This is nothing short of cyber bullying! We teach our children not to write mean things about another person, but as adults I guess you don't have to follow the same rules. Dr. Miller is a very caring doctor, he loves his job and he loves helping people. He truly takes the time to get to the bottom of issues. He is always there if a patient needs help. Going through some of the things I have gone through in my life, Dr. Miller has listened and been very careful about the medication he prescribes to me. He has worked with my husband and I when we did not have insurance, he never turned us away, because we couldn't pay. He is a very understanding and generous person. He spends many hours at his clinic, more than some of you know to take patients of his patients. Blaming the relapse of a meth addict on Dr. Miller is just plain stupid!! Like all the people have said before that addict had the power to say no! Working in the medical field I know how many times people are not honest in disclosing all their medical issues. It is the patients responsibility to be honest and disclose all their past medical problems. To nadja you do not know the whole story about Dr. Miller and the hospital. So before you say anything make sure you know the facts. Our hospital isn't as amazing as everyone thinks it is!! My family has had first hand knowledge on how they treat the doctors in our community! To everyone else on here who thinks that they are "helping" the community by name calling please grow up.
I would trust the life of my girls, husband and myself with Dr. Miller. He may not be everyone's idea of how a Dr. should be but for those of us that truly know him and care about him, he is the Perfect Dr, and has helped many many people here in Craig.

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jobyrae 2 years, 5 months ago

To Justoncrack really that is your username? Just reading the notes at a TMH board meeting isn't going to tell the whole story behind that issue. So once again before you say something make sure you have the facts as to why something happened!

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AshleyVasquez 2 years, 5 months ago

I have noticed all of the name calling and trashing talking people, all have white trash user names.......Also easy to run your mouth sitting behind a computer under a fake name. It makes me laugh! Also there is nothing to hide not for 1 second were we ever even worried!!!!!! We are still open so there ya go they dont have anything. Also anyone who trusts the goverment thats wasting tax payers money on this crap when they could be investigating all the true criminals. All of us who do pay taxes would like to see our money better spent!

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BlueMoon81625 2 years, 5 months ago

justoncrack sounds like someone who could be in the law enforcement.

Trying to underhandedly push your agenda. Hmmmm.

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AshleyVasquez 2 years, 5 months ago

I agree BlueMoon!!!Justoncrack Knows to much info to not be!

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heidiclick 2 years, 5 months ago

@WrestlinRockies: every single thing you wrote was an attack on me personally and a fabrication of statements I did not write. You called me "clearly someone who cannot be trusted with even the smallest amount of responsibility", "a shining example of why most people can not be trusted", and a "loose lipped friend". I ask you not refer to me as your friend...there is nothing about you that would be in the least bit deserving of my friendship. Honestly, you don't know me, so your comments mean less to me than the turd my neighbor's dog left in my yard, but your anger/ignorance/inability to stay on the original subject matter boils over to all of humankind being untrustworthy because you deem me " a shinging example of why most people can not be trusted"???? That is so absurd. Good grief, really?????

For the record, never did I say or imply I was a Pharmacist. Nor am I a liar or loose lipped, as you say. Never have I compromised my customers' privacy, nor would I, whether I am still in a position that HIPPA applies to or not.

When I lay my head down tonight, I'll have no regrets, no guilt, no feelings of needing to go to confession for the banter shared today. I might spend 0.0001 second thinking about what jackasses some people can be (ahem, you).

I made a point of being factual as I know it, including making it clear I do not know Dr. Miller personally or as a patient. I stayed positive in regards to hoping for a positive outcome of the investigation--no opinion was offered in regard to Dr. Miller's practice other than prescriptions, or to his staff, who are devoted to him. I imagine that all humans have opposing traits, some good and some not. It's not for you, me, or anyone to decide the outcome of this inquiry other than those involved in the investigation.

Other than the minority of folks using this forum for stupidity (by the way, since you do not care what I think-your words-, I consider you and I done communicating), I appreciate that this subject is being raised; is being debated. Debating should be a healthy way to express opposing views. I appreciate The Craig Daily Press providing this avenue of thought provoking conversation among it's readers.

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BlueMoon81625 2 years, 5 months ago

heidiclick is not a real pharmacist. Unless you give us your real name, you have no legs to stand on.

But, if you do work in a pharmacy, and saw these prescriptions filled, did YOU knowingly allow these prescriptions to be filled which should not have been prescribed? Did YOU ever contact Dr. Miller to raise your concerns? Don't you have a duty to help the patients as well as your fellow doctor?

You do realize patients lie to their doctors, but it is a doctor's duty to care for their patients and when they say they are in pain they have to believe them to some extent. They do their best to validate and re-validate their diagnosis. Doctors are often between a rock and a hard place.

Dr. Miller has only been in Craig for a few years, so he doesn't know every drug addict in town.

If you really are a pharmacist you had a duty to make a difference.

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WrestlinRockies 2 years, 5 months ago

Ohh Heidi....how I wish I was a woman.

Trust me my dearest...sweetest hearted...ignoramus friend, that I am of the healthiest of the "healthy" of debaters....lace em' honey because I will be going the distance!

I still stand by every letter of my statement and re-enforce with great might....that you are an utter disgrace to whatever profession you grace with your incompetence.

You are so blind of your ignorance and wrong doing that it only further exemplifies that your only qualification is to pat your own back & toot your horn. You are wrong, dead wrong...you should have done your professional duty and intervened if need be..on the Professional level!!!! Not open the window on an online forum for others to see your complete disregard for professional practices, laws, and private affairs.

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ajcnrmc2508 2 years, 5 months ago

Ansley & Kristy, (Tina) I stand by every thing you said. Dr. Miller is one of the the best doctor in Craig if not the very best. I also am one of those people that Dr. Miller took his time with and actually found out what was wrong with me after seeing countless other doctors here and through out the state. If it wasn't for him I may not be alive today, and I know for a fact that that my mother would not be. As for all you people that are so quick to judge then you DO NOT have the correct information!!! And should be ashamed especially if you've never seen him!!!! I will stand behind Dr. Miller 100%. I am thankful every day that we have him to serve our community and to be my doc!!! Thank you Doc & the Girls!!!!! Rose & Vickie

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heidiclick 2 years, 5 months ago

@Bluemoon81625, Please show me where I said I was a pharmacist in anything I've posted. I have not in any way misrepresented myself. Nor do I feel required to provide my resume'.

My name IS Heidi Click. I called my Mom and she indeed verify that. Thanks for your comment about not giving my real name gives me no legs to stand on. Who in their right mind would say that when themselves don't do what they preach. In the end, it doesn't matter really. I personally believe standing behind something I've posted. If Dr. Miller ever wanted to discuss my comments he at least has my name to do so. It's his right, if he were to choose to.

But what this has turned in to is a giant waste of time. I'm not in this to be malicious. I said what I wanted to say and continuing this BS back and forth is a waste of everyone's time.

I do however agree that all doctors are often put in between a rock and a hard place. Please refer to my first post, if you care to, about me not being qualified to diagnois or develop treatment plans for patients. I respect those in the medical field that are faced with these challenges day after day. That said, they are not incapable of practicing restraint or realizing they are being used.

As far as why I didn't do or say anything, how do you know I didn't? Whether I did or not is not your business and does fall under the laws regulating patient privacy. This is pointless...pointing fingers at strangers. It has nothing to do with the article or the investigation. I stand by opinion. Everyone is entitled to do so, and I respect that. The jackasses I'll go ahead and with pleasure ignore.

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heidiclick 2 years, 5 months ago

@wrestlinrockies....i cannot believe you posted that you wished you were a woman! that's incredibly manly of u

thanks for the fits of laughter..you are truly a monumental, epic train wreck. Get a shrink, man er, woman. hahahahahaha

I applaud the officers who are looking out for us...even the completely stupid ones of us. If there's nothing there, then there's nothing there. But if there is, I'm glad to get it off the street and out of the schools. And if you don't think that's what happens to ALOT of the narcotics dispensed, you are so far in denial you might as well live a Norman Rockwell picture.

This is not a witch hunt, it's a drug investigation. I hope y'all stay focused on that and whatever happens, happens.

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justoncrack 2 years, 5 months ago

Not sure who Ryan Hess is, but if he's tall, dark and handsome, then that's me! I never have been involved with law enforcement, except for a short stint as a bouncer at a gay club in college. Anyways, I have been involved in healthcare both directly and indirectly for the past 10 years, and have followed Joel Miller's rise and fall here in Craig. But this isn't about about me.

I hope that clears it up for you Bluemoon81625 (or Candyman, Dr. Feelgood, or as you prefer, Joel Miller). I've made my arguement and really see no reason to continue this mindless banter. I look forward to the results of the investigation.

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stelladams 2 years, 5 months ago

This is a quick note to let the readers know that my family and I are 100% behind Dr. Miller and his clinic. He has done nothing but been a good caring doctor and we are proud to call him a friend. My sons think the world of him and he has helped them countlessly. We have been with Joel since he came here to work with Dr. Told, and we will continue to see him and his staff (hopefully for a really long time). Chris and JD Adams

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AshleyVasquez 2 years, 5 months ago

Also a thank you to all of our pacients who have commented :) thank you we love all of you and will continue to take the best care we can of you! We love you and thank you for your support!

             Ashley Vasquez
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heidiclick 2 years, 5 months ago

@Ashley, in complete honesty I was never a patient because of his reputation. That was my personal decision and I've never regretted it.

Second, the idea of you being one my health care providers with verbage and punctuation errors such as yours in your rant is beyond frightening. Doesn't do much to instill confidence to perspective patients.

Thirdly, after you re-graduate from elementary school, try reading the First Amendment of our Constitution. As much as you have a right to voice your opinion so do I and whomever justoncrack is. "Shut up" just doesn't work here. It's ok to agree to disagree, something many authors on this sight have no concept of.

And lastly, have a terrific, calm day. Judging from your classless language you are in need of one.

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heidiclick 2 years, 5 months ago

@Ashley, in complete honesty I was never a patient because of his reputation. That was my personal decision, and I've never regretted it.

Second, the idea of your being one of my health care providers with verbage and punctuation errors such as yours in your rant is beyond frightening. Doesn't do much to instill confidence to prospective patients.

Thirdly, after you re-graduate from elementary school, try reading the First Amendment of our Constitution. As much as you have a right to voice your opinion, so do I and whoever justoncrack is. “Shut up” just doesn't work here. It's ok to agree to disagree, something many authors on this site have no concept of.

And lastly, have a terrific, calm day. Judging from your classless language, you are in desperate need of one.

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TannerandElizabeth 2 years, 5 months ago

Wow! The real point here is that if you don't personally know Dr.Miller or have had a personal experience in some way with him then who are you to even judge him as a Doctor. Just because you hear people running their mouths about things they know nothing about doesn't mean any of you truly know the facts about what goes on in Dr.Millers office. Him and his staff are amazing people that do nothing less then care for their patients by putting their hearts and souls into their jobs. Just because a person isn't using correct spelling or grammer doesn't mean they aren't good at patient care etc... I know for a fact that Dr.Miller and his staff have more than enough people that will stick by their side through all of this. Having you people bash him doesn't affect him in any way. The opinions that matter are the ones that know the truth and aren't pathetic enough to believe rumors!!! Elizabeth Roberts

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Rebelgirl 2 years, 5 months ago

I have been to Dr. Miller. Many times in the past. Saying that i will not EVER support him. I know he puts people that have no business being on Phentermine, really you have ten pounds you cant lose? He does not encourage people to change their life style while on Phentermine. Instead people still eat the same junk, but as long as you are on the med you lose weight. Its the equivilent of legal speed. You dont need Phentermine if you have less than 20 pounds to lose, and that is per the medical guidelines I researched. Miller has no business prescribing it, nor does he have any business prescribing the amount of narcotics that he does. He hands out meds like candy indeed. Yet he has confided in me that he wouldnt prescribe one of my family members with known joint problems that needed surgery Tylenol with Codeine because they were abusing it. The family member had a one month prescription that lasted three, yeah sounds like abuse to me! Yes he has done some good but I also know he has done damage. You do not put someone on seizure meds for weight loss. Nor do you put people on multiple psych meds without ever reffering them to a psych Dr. Most people like him because he will do what they want rather than being the Dr. he wants to be their best friend. Which is why most of the people on this discussion board defend him. Other Dr. wont play their game. Isnt the big rule of medicine is do no harm??? Then he needs to go back and relearn the rule, cause from where I stand this investigation has been needed for awhile.

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lonelyone 2 years, 5 months ago

My husband and I don't go to Dr. Miller because we just never cared for him. He said some things that I thought were totally out of line and he rubbed my husband the wrong way right off the bat. That being said, I know people who really like him. I think we all have our favorites and those we don't care for or like no matter what the situation is. Ashley, you should calm down and I'll tell you right now, several of your posts have been flagged to be removed. I don't care how you strongly you feel about what is being said here, your language needs to changed.

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lonelyone 2 years, 5 months ago

Oh and I'm also wondering and I am just wondering, why these files were taken if Dr. Miller has done nothing wrong? There has to be a reason for these people to come in and take them, but I don't seem to see that in the article.

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heidiclick 2 years, 5 months ago

@Rebelgirl, A perfectly written blog. Thank you for writing it.

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STTAK 2 years, 5 months ago

@ Ashley- I take offense to your comment about our hospital being so horrible, I am a PROUD employee of TMH and no I am not a nurse nor a doctor but I am an employee that's takes offense to your comment! Please also note that there is dictionary.com that you can refer to if your not sure how to spell a word(s). My other question to you would be this- If Dr. Miller has nothing to be investigated for why is his office personnel putting up the defense so high?

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BlueMoon81625 2 years, 5 months ago

Heidi & juston: Thanks for your responses. You have every right to your opinion. This is a forum for all, and it also demonstrates that there are two sides to every story, and that all the facts just aren't available to you or me.

I just wonder though, so many citizens and colleagues have been following this so closely, did you look out for the goodwill of and well-being of all, patients and provider, so they can all be healthy and successful. Or, did you just sit on the sidelines waiting, watching, and hoping for a train wreck, even help push it off the tracks? People judge, they enjoy seeing another's misery, and feed the fire through gossip and ill will, because it makes your own existence seem better. Inaction is a conspiracy; as much as it is important to report to authorities, it is also a service to bring attention to who you believe may be a perpetrator. Could they possibly be a victim too?

Only your conscience and God know if you truly practiced good intentions through your observations of these events transpiring.

And no, this is not Dr. Miller. I fear some times, what I write may be hurting him so I will try to abstain for now.

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heidiclick 2 years, 5 months ago

@BlueMoon81625:

You wrote: Only your conscience and God know if you truly practiced good intentions through your observations of these events transpiring.

I can only say that if I were to answer your well written questions (I appreciate the civility) as detailed as I'd like to, it would be a violation of HIPPA on my part and ethically not fair to Dr. Miller who would be unable to respond, also due to HIPPA. I'll admit, it's tough not to respond because I care deeply for Craig and it's residents. My own opinion is that there is a dangerous problem and I'd want to see that rectified as a matter of public safety and awareness.

Beyond that, as you say, "only your conscience and God know if you truly praticed good intentions." All I can say to that is my conscience and God know my heart, my intent, my action(s), and my desire to see wrongs, righted. I'm square with my conscience and God.

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David Moore 2 years, 5 months ago

lonelyone, I too have flagged some of the inappropriate posts by (Miss, Mrs, Ms) Vasquez. Along with STTAK, as an employee of our local hospital, I also take offense to the statements made by another "medical professional", who's professionalism is now in judgement as well. I am proud to work with 16 other people in the PeriOperative Department who take great pride in their work and have received high marks and feedback for it, simply put, we rock!! The people at TMH who care for our citizens are working hard to make things right and the surveys are improving everyday, some people just need to let go of the past, it is a different place nowadays. If everything is so great at your clinic, why the outlandish speech and hateful commentary? Everyone is entitled to an opinion but for the life of me I cannot understand why issues on this forum resort to namecalling and now foul language. Why can't we just talk things out in a respectful, dignified manner? I try, and I am well aware that I do get out of hand at times, but c'mon, I don't go to this extreme, especially using my real name and being in the position of a medical professional. I think I would seek somewhere else to get my medical care if the office staff of my doctor spoke to the public like she has. This is a serious issue that has finally come into the limelight, it will be looked into and if it was not an issue, I don't think the feds would be wasting their time. We shall see how this plays out.

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nightnurse 2 years, 5 months ago

@TannerandElizabeth Bofore you post anything publicly you should know your facts or you end up looking really stupid. facts:http://www.drugs.com/pro/phentermine.html Phentermine and methamphetamine (meth) are both chemically related to the drug amphetamine, so the two drugs have similar properties. Both drugs are stimulants (as are all amphetamines), but the stimulant effects of methamphetamine are greater, making methamphetamine very addictive with a high potential for abuse and dependence.

Amphetamines along with stimulant properties, also have appetite suppressing properties. The stimulant effects of phentermine increase your heart rate and blood pressure and decrease your appetite. The appetite suppressing effect of phentermine tends to decrease after a few weeks and therefore this drug is only useful during the first few weeks of a weight-loss program.

You will find info at http://phentermine.drugs.com

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nightnurse 2 years, 5 months ago

@AshleyVasquez Your comments are absolutely appalling is it amazing that you work in the healthcare field. The majority of the people that work in healthcare have compassion empathy and are morally and ethically passionate in the jobs that they do you on the other hand are an exception to that rule. You should consider a new line of work.

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mustang 2 years, 5 months ago

DavidMoore, your comment is great and I completely agree with all that you said. Thank you!!

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Domestic_diva 2 years, 5 months ago

I am writing here to say that I (Just like you) have no place to judge Dr. Miller, your experience with him doesnt determine what kind of a doctor he is. I trust Dr. Miller. I took my daughter (then 7 months old and now 13 months) to a different clinic to have a bump on her head looked at. I had noticed it for a couple weeks and I had a feeling I should get it looked at. The doctor there that we saw felt it, measured it, consulted with TWO other doctors at the clinic and told me that she had Craniosynostosis, Which is where the lines of a baby's skull begin to fuse together push on the brain. It is life threatening, can cause retardation and requires major surgery. They sent me for xrays and said they would be in touch in the next week to set up an appt. with a brain and skull surgeon at children's hospital. We went for x-rays and I waited and never heard from that clinic. I left messages and never received a return call. I was scared I couldn't eat I couldn't sleep I just kept waiting wondering if my baby was going to be ok. I was seeing Dr. Miller then and asked him at my appt. about my daughter. He wanted to see her immediately. Right away he told me that it was not Craniosynostosis and believed it was just a cyst on her skull and that it was nothing dangerous and that it would probably resolve itself. He got her x-rays and confirmed this. I bring her to every one of my appointments and he takes the time to look at her. While another clinic left me thinking my daughter was going to die, Dr. Miller relieved my fears. That to me is priceless. To this day I have not received a call back from that clinic. I have also had a great experience with Dr. Miller. This doesn't mean that he is perfect. Are you? I think that the responsibility of being a doctor is hard enough. He is responsible for many lives. Dr. Miller cannot control what his patients do. That is not his job. If someone gets medication from him, and it "ends up on the streets of Craig" he is in no way responsible for that. I do know that Dr. Miller follows procedure when prescribing narcotics and other medications. He checks documentation and maintains his own documentation before/while prescribing. Just because he gives more prescriptions doesn't mean he has poor judgement, it may just mean that he cares more about his patients and less about his "reputation" than the other doctors who would rather leave a patient suffering than "look bad". Dr. Miller (and other doctors) have gone to school for a very long time to do their job and to develop their judgement. Have you? Do you have a degree? Does the government have a PhD? I don't think so. Its time for people to stop being in other peoples business, including some of the pathetic people posting here and the government who don't know anything about peoples health conditions. Thank you Dr. Miller for helping my daughter, and giving me peace of mind to sleep at night. Thank you for continuing to care for Gracie and for me. Elizabeth C.

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BlueMoon81625 2 years, 5 months ago

@heidiclick: As you so quoted: "...the Privacy Rule is balanced so that it permits the disclosure of personal health information needed for patient care and other important purposes.”

Good for you, that you can sleep with a good conscience.

HIPPA was established to protect a patient's privacy, especially from discrimination due to medical conditions they may have (among other things). It was not created for the medical profession or other agencies to hide behind if they failed to perform patient care to the best of their abilities based on all the information that is available to them.

I know Dr. Miller provides the best medical care possible based on all the information he has available to him. I do also know, there are people who do not like him; no one is perfect. I hope that this investigation is not perpetrated by big egos and personal vendettas. There appear to be valid complaints but are they magnified here, what is the big picture? Due to HIPPA and lack of resources to place effort there, we the public will unlikely see how the statistics stack up against other doctors in similar demographics and situations.

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1xBitten2xShy 2 years, 5 months ago

I've seen similar behavior, pro and con, re Dr. Told's TMH-privileges investigation 30+ years ago.

Re: Dr. Miller's employees: Until the DOJ decides to prosecute or not, you'd do best to SAY NOTHING! DOJ seizing files indicates that he's under serious scrutiny. His employees will be also be under scrutiny!

It's unlikely the DOJ/FBI screwed up ("Waco"? Probably NOT.). We're re-living the '60s, with societal-insanity re legalized-pot, increased hallucinogen use, drinking, etc. The drug industry cares most about profits; doctors are pressured to prescribe: "For every ill there is a pill ..." It's TOO easy to get drugs--in potentially fatal-combinations or fatal-quantities--over the Net without seeing a DO or MD. Moreover, doctors do have problems requiring intervention. With the spread of "Internet pharmacies", we're simply going to have more, not less, of these problems.

If you think MDs have no responsibility for Rx, "once an addict, always an addict ...", etc., please read, i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phentermine, among others. If no doctors committed malpractice, none would have to pay high malpractice insurance! Let's hope you and no one close to you dies of an MD-prescribed, or Internet-enabled, overdose!

Doctors (and other intelligent people) often have EQs far lower than their IQs; acting on that EQ can cause problems. Well-meaning but otherwise immature or naive people support them.

I'm between doctors. The last told me I had bleeding in my liver, said "It's normal". The HELL it is! Only in a population of people with liver problems where the "average" person in that population has bleeding. However, having a high IQ (and an EQ too low ...), I stopped taking the 2 x 500 mg Tylenol tablets (twice daily), as it's known to cause liver damage. My life! My call!

This was one of many times this doc failed in his/her responsibility: referring me repeatedly to surgeons without sending adequate info, prescribing an inhaler for COPD--which she/he denies I have--to which I'm allergic, etc. I'm looking for a new doc.

It won't be Miller. Not with past allegations of having lost hospital privileges, having voluntarily surrendered them, etc. (Truth of the allegation is a defense against charges of defamation of character.)

Thank you.

Sincerely,

1xBitten2xShy

PS I've spent half my life (50+) in recovery from drug-addiction, including addiction to alcohol, amphetamine/methamphetamine, codeine, etc. I don't take opiates. I don't take anything similar to them. I've had two abdominal surgeries and gotten by with Flexeril, Alleve, aspirin, and (formerly) Tylenol.

PPS "Sobriety" means many things: (1) not drinking, (2) drinking, but not getting drunk based on an attitude of (a) abstemiousness, of (b) temperance, etc. The later two are synonymous with "sobriety". So, some of you need to adopt a different attitude, possibly toward "recovery".

:)

[chuckle]

PPPS <3000 characters; ya gotta be kidding! Editted. :)

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1xBitten2xShy 2 years, 5 months ago

Oops-->Re: "I don't take opiates." I also don't take phentermine, synthetic opiates, benzodiazepines, etc. Back over 3000 characters. :) Ahh, just "post another." :)

Have a nice day.

1x...2x...

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1xBitten2xShy 2 years, 5 months ago

OOPS-->Re: "His employees will be also be under scrutiny!" should have read "His employees will also under scrutiny," of a kind I'd find oppressive if I knew about it. But, they may not know about it until they're given a grand jury summons, get arrested, etc., if such hypothetical, speculative, conjectured situations should occur (another defense against defamation).

:)

[chuckle]

1x...

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1xBitten2xShy 2 years, 5 months ago

Darn-->" “His employees will also BE under scrutiny”.

[frown--no chuckle]

1x...

PS However--perfectionist that I am--which means I don't accept reality as much as it means I HATE making mistakes--mistakes can be capitalized upon, i.e., Dr. Miller' employees who've posted here may not post again, prematurely.

[chuckle]

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Heather Overton 2 years, 5 months ago

I just have a question does anyone actually know why they took the records???? No, I didn't think so. I don't know why they took the records so I'm not going to sit here and bad mouth Miller. But I can say that I to have been a patient of his and he was always really good. In fact my husband had to take my son in there one day because something was wrong. We simply thought that he had chicken pox. Miller seen him without having an appointment and got him in right away. Right off the bat Miller told us it was not chicken pox, he automatically started looking through books. He did not know what our son had and I was glad that he could actually admitt that instead of guessing. So he told us to get him to a hospital right away. We took him to St. Mary's it took about 15 different people looking at him before someone could give us an answer as to what he had. It ended up that he had the rarest type of vasculitus. If it would not have been for Dr. Miller our son could have went into kidney failure, and several other things. Dr. Miller watched over him like a hawk until it was all over. I am greatful for what he did. I am not saying he is perfect Im not saying he is the absolutely the best doctor in the world. But I'm not here to call him a piece of crap or any of the other names he has been called. What until all the facts are out before you start to judge someone. No one knows exactly why the records were taken, so wait until it comes out as to why before you start to judge.

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