Bob Grubb: Response to Merett letter

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To the editor:

Responding to James Merett’s response to Dale Potter’s letter.

Your opening sentence, “Many of our so-called founding fathers …” I find rather derogatory.

Many and so-called are words often used by republicans attacking democrats and vice versa. Neither party wants real truth. This is clear to C-Span watchers. Thank God for C-Span; at least we have two channels where we get some glimmer of truth in the lower 40.

I agree with your definition of deism except that it was, and still is, a religion. (Why call it a philosophy?) It has, as you clearly stated, beliefs and consequences. Deism is not off the hook. The French deists of the 1700s were half-baked atheists; half-baked because they were stuck on the problem of “first cause” and thus suggested a creator who deserts his creation. This produced the French revolution blood bath of supposed reasonableness with state/church cruelty as tinder.

Compare the American Revolution fought by Bible-believing Christians (but not so believing that they were pacifists; they were Augustinians in understanding) and local deists who together formed a “more perfect union” with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all. They placed in the constitution that no religion, whether Anglican, Presbyterian or Roman (the big three of colonial times) would ever run the state, be run by it or be officially approved. This was their intent and the background of Jefferson’s letter.

Around that time, Christians throughout the colonies, along with brethren in England, were pushing to do away with slavery. The great god “economics” won the day in the states, aided by deists such as Jefferson and Christians misled by Mammon instead of Jehovah Jesus. Eighty years later, the terrible Civil War broke out.

Can we ever learn that putting off or hiding problems never solves them? Probably not, but true problems do not go away.

If this were a political letter, I would now talk about global warming, the national debt and health care. Ed Quillian, of Salida, calls the timbered areas where people build fire-prone houses, the stupid zones. I call this a stupid time.

In closing, I refer to James Merrett’s closing remarks about Dale’s spreading hate of others and cherry picking of scripture.

I urge you to be careful for these charges are serious. Indeed, Dale Potter will be held accountable, but so will you and I. I also invite you to The God Delusion/Reason for God discussion group which meets from 4 to 6 p.m. Sundays at McDonald’s.

You may enjoy it, or then again not.

As Red Skelton frequently said, God bless.

Bob Grubb

Comments

jamcolo 4 years, 6 months ago

I don't recall any consequences shown for deism. No hell awaits sinners with deism.

Half-baked atheists what a hoot. In the mid 1500's to 1600's Was the French Wars of Religion primarily fought between French Catholics and Protestants.

French Revolution was a three way war.Now of the parts were deists.For the most part it was a war between the The First Estate comprised the entire clergy,The Second Estate was the French nobility(or any man who owned land) and lastly the The Third Estate was the generality of people which were not part of the other estates. ( Common people)

Most historical models identify economic factors included widespread famine,starvation and malnutrition due to rising bread prices.The decision of King Louis XIII to reintroduce Catholicism in a portion of southwestern France prompted a Huguenot (Protestants) revolt.

Another cause was the fact that Louis XV fought many wars, bringing France to the verge of bankruptcy, made worse by the monarchy's military failures and ineptitude, and the lack of social services for war veterans.

Sure there was resentment of clerical advantage ( paid no taxes) and aspirations for freedom of religion.With the Protestants wanting to be free to follow their own ways.

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