Family's pit bulls ordered destroyed

Dogs attacked, injured jogger July 5

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— Municipal Court Judge Kevin Peck ordered the city to destroy a local family's two pit bulls after he found the animals violated a city ordinance on vicious animals.

According to a Craig Police Department report, the pit bulls attacked local resident David Grabowski on July 5 as he was jogging near Seventh and Russell streets.

Officials euthanized the dogs by injection Wednesday.

Photo evidence included in court records showed Grabowski had a bite mark about 7 inches wide on one of his upper thighs and a small, shallow hole on his lower leg.

Grabowski told police officials that he had to jump over a chain link fence to get away when one of the dogs bit his thigh and hung there until he made it to safety.

City Attorney Kenny Wohl said the case was "pretty clear cut."

The dogs' owner, Sandra Bernhardt, 37, also was ordered to pay $3,000 restitution to Grabowski, as well as city costs to keep and destroy the animals, which had been in holding since the incident occurred July 5.

The city does not have an estimate on how much its costs will be.

There will be a restitution review hearing Dec. 9 to see whether Grabowski's medical costs exceed the initial restitution.

Peck ordered $90 in court costs to Bernhardt be suspended so she can pay restitution.

Bernhardt said the court's decision has been difficult for her family to accept, particularly her two sons.

"My kids are very upset today," she said. "They've done nothing but cry. I've been crying. Part of our family has been yanked away."

Bernhardt added she was taken by surprise during court proceedings because she thought she was there for a conference to see whether the dogs could be returned home pending a formal hearing.

She said she was shocked when it was decided her dogs would be destroyed.

"I didn't know this was going to be a guilty or not guilty hearing," she said. "If I had known and had time, we could have done a petition. Lots of people know my dogs and know how great they are.

"But it was just cut and dry. They're going to be put down."

Bernhardt said she and her family will not try to see the dogs before they're destroyed, but they do plan to save the dogs' collars and leashes and build a memorial.

"It'd be too hard, too hard on the kids, to go out there," she said.

She still does not understand why they will be put down after their first offense.

"I think it's because they're pit bulls," Bernhardt said. "People need to know, even though they're pit bulls, it doesn't mean they're mean. Even little poodles can be mean. It's all in how they raise them."

However, it's hard for Becky Grabowski, the wife of the man attacked, to accept that the two pit bulls could be trusted to never attack another person.

"This was an unprovoked attack," she said. "As crazy as it sounds, I'm glad it was David, because he's big enough to get away and get over the fence. If that had been a child or an elderly person, I don't think they would have been able to do that."

Since the attack, Dave's bites have become infected with what doctor's think is an antibiotic-resistant staph infection, Becky said. He's also unable to sit down because of the location of his wounds and is on pain medication.

Becky added that she and Dave feel bad for Bernhardt's sons, who also owned the dogs and were present at the municipal court hearing.

"I'm a pet lover, and I've loved dogs my whole life," she said. "But if my dogs chased after a jogger like that, they'd be dead. You wouldn't have to call animal control. I'd put them down myself."

The incident is an example of why city animal control officers need to do more to enforce pet laws, such as leash requirements and penalties for loose animals, Becky said.

"Enough is enough," she said. "I have a 6-year-old who's afraid to leave the house. I see dogs running loose all the time, and then I see joggers and women walking with their babies. Animal control has a tough job, and they do what they can with limited funding, but enough is enough."

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

Craig Colorado has the worst excuse for a judicial system i have ever seen. This is a town who screems "animal rights" and yet puts these dogs down without even an investigation. Now i dont want to call any one a liar, but i own the brother of Deisel, and i've never seen a more loving dog in all my life. my dog, Chaos, and Deisel are dogs that were raised around children, and not raised to fight, but to protect, but did anyone ever think of that? Or how traumatizing this is for the children? i'm really sorry this man was bitten, but why should the courts cause more pain?

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selket42 5 years, 5 months ago

"Even little poodles can be mean. It's all in how they raise them" The main difference being, I suppose, is the potential damage two big dogs running at large can do. I completely agree with Mrs. Grabowski, the dog owner bears full responsibility for this attack,...as should any large breed dog owner under the same circumstance. And there shouldn't be the same three strike standard used anytime a dog, or dogs, is off the owners property and attacks someone. Once is one time too many.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

So you think that just because a do g is larger that the laws should be different? If it were a couple of chihuahuas that attacked and bit this man would they be put to sleep? I really doubt it. Having been a neighbor of this dog I know for a fact that it wasnt raised to be a mean aggressive dog. I totally agree that it is the responsibilty of the owner to take care of the damage that this dog has done, but I disagree with distroying the dog, and on a personal note you shoul watch animal planet or Cesar Millan's dog whisperer. All dogs can be retrained. Also, to the judge, people decided to take aninmals in and domesticate them, they did not choose this, they are and always will be ANIMALS, sir!!!! Why are they being punished for what they are? This is much like telling them they cant bark, its what they do.They were never given a choice.

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JAHM 5 years, 5 months ago

I agree with these dogs being put down. even though so many people say they were good dogs and were never agressive something in them snapped. It does not always have to be the owner that makes the dog who they are. Something about that man whatever it was made these dogs feel affraid or agressive and all he was doing was running!(and I understand the dogs were just doing what they thought they needed to to defend themselves from this man they found threatening, but it does not make it right or okay.) what would have happend had it been a teen or a child out for a run that morning? I think all of you would have a different view on this had it been a teen or a child, even if it had been a small dog! a small dog can do just as much damage as a big dog can. I honestly think that had it been small dogs that had attacked this man the same thing would have happend.It really sucks that this had to happen but this is a case of a man that got attacked by two dogs that were aparently NOT leashed or contained in a yard. These are the chances owners take when they do not contain their animals the way the law askes you to. Maybe the dog owners will be more careful in the future with containing their animals better regaurdless of how "friendly" they and everyone else says they are.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

WELL I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY BOUGHT A DOG FOR PROTECTION, SO WHEN THE DOG PROTECTS, YOU KILL IT? THATS SO CALLED SOCIETY FOR YOU...ALL A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES!!!! THE DOGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN LEASHED OR IN A YARD, THE OWNERS SHOULD PAY FOR THE MANS MEDICAL BILLS, BUT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ANIMALS ARE JUST THAT, ANIMALS. THEY DONT THINK LIKE PEOPLE DO, AND THEREFORE IT ISNT THEIR FAULT. P.S. THE DOGS THAT WERE BRED FOR FIGHTING FOR MICHAEL VICK WERENT PUT DOWN THEY WERE RETRAINED. AND MIGHT I ADD THEY WERE GIVEN TO FAMILIES AFTERWARD!!!! NOT ONLY CAN DOGS BE RETRAINED BUT SMALL HUMAN MINDS SHOULD BE!!!

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lonelyone 5 years, 5 months ago

eastside, I understand what your trying to tell us all, but at the same time I get the feeling that had it been your husband or your child, you'd be out there yelling your head off about what happened. I totally agree tho, that it's how a dog is trained and treated as to whether it's an agressive dog or not. But as you say they are animals and will act like an animal. Why should we behave different towards your pet or mine when it does this kind of damage, but we have to totally relocate or put down a bear when they even get into someones garbage........they're just hungry and looking for food so what's the harm....they are just being animals?? I know that's a bit over the top in comparing a bear to a dog, but in many ways it's the same thing. Yes, maybe the dog should have been given another chance, but are you willing to take that chance with someone in your family?

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quickgetaway 5 years, 5 months ago

I was attacked by a dog "that would never bite" while on a bike ride. I totally agree with the courts, put the dog(s) down. The owners should write a thank you note to the judge and praise him for protecting their children. David, hire a good lawyer and sue the homeowner's insurance company. Everyone should check out dogbitelaw.com ~ it has tons of good information.
Kudos to Judge Peck!!

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JAHM 5 years, 5 months ago

So my question is where were the owners of these dogs that they were trying to protect when they attacked that man? no where at the time right? so what was the reason for the attack then? and most of the time when owners train their dogs to protect them if someone is trying to hurt them or breaks in or so on and so forth the owners are usually there and involved right? and don't get me wrong I think its great that the dogs michael vick trained to fight were taken in by someone who had the time to retrain them and put them in good homes. Does not mean that they wont revert back to what they know and were taught. In this case I think it was only fair that the dogs be put down. There was no rhyme or reason for them to attack this man, and thats what makes it scary! now I may understand a bit more if the person had put the dog in a threatening position or were trying to harm the dog, but that was not the case this go round, and im sorry to say this but we are here to discuss the issue right not SLAM and name call on people who don't agree with you.

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ArmyStrong 5 years, 5 months ago

Let's not forget the facts: (1)SIZE does matter along with more personal respondsiblity - Hey Ms. Bernhardt your comparision of a mean small poodle to TWO mean pit bulls does make a hellva of difference. Don't get it? Well how about a small compact car versus a BIG Semi Truck on the highways. In order to drive a BIG Rig, the individual must have a different licensce because of the greater damage that truck makes if not handled versus a compact car. Ms. Bernhardt owned TWO PIT BULLS than you (as the adult) take on the greater respondsibility of ownership so injury and/or death does not result when you cannot even recall those dogs back to the house when there was NOT a threat made to you nor your property. (2) Consequences & Emotions: A good teaching lesson for children to realize that it is sad when a pet is put down, but don't dare leave out the reason for action which is the injury to an innocent citizen and remember one of the injuries is a reported SEVEN INCH WIDE bite. How about taking a ruler out and get the visual effect how traumatic that would be if two dogs chased your child while they were running..hmmm a little different perspective now. (3) STRONG.. It was stated that IF those dogs attacked an elderly person or a child rather than Mr. Grabowski, the trauma would have been worse, perhaps even death. So here is Mr. Grabowski, a man who not only served daily to defend our freedom as a military vet, but a man who is an educator, runs to keep strong and still had the quick reflexes and wisdom to react to an unprovoked attack. What a vicious attack he survived and I would be proud to have him live our our community.

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jamie felten 5 years, 5 months ago

Speaking as a dog owner. If my dogs ever acted this way I would not let them back into my home. My dogs are a part of my family. But it is my job to protect my children. It is very difficult to loose a pet and my heart goes out to this family for your lost. But I would never risk having this kind of situation again, next time the outcome could be worst. All pet owners out there should take responsibility and keep your pets either on a lease or in a fenced in area for your pets own safety and passer byers, regaurdless of what breed your dog happens to be. These kind of situation can be avoided.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

I NEVER CALLED ANY NAMES FIRST OFF, BUT THE TRUTH IS, THAT DOGS WERE CHOSEN BY HUMANS, WHAT EVER HAPPENS IS OUR FAULT. SECONDLY, WAS THERE ANY ONE THERE TO WITNESS THIS ATTACK? WHOS TO SAY THAT THIS PERSON DIDNT PROVOKE IT? THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY BE JUST WHAT HE IS SAYING. WERE YOU THERE? AND LAST BUT MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT ANIMALS DONT HAVE COMMON SENSE, BUT HUMANS DO, DO THEY IMEDIATLY PUT DOWN A HUMAN FOR DOING SOMETHING TO HURT ANOTHER HUMAN, NO THEY DONT, THEY GET SECOND AND THIRD AND SOMETIMES MORE CHANCES THAN THAT, AND YET WE KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG. AND TO TOP THIS OFF I DONT THINK THAT COMPARING A DOG TO A BEAR IS OVER THE TOP. MAYBE AS BEARS GET RELOCATED AS SHOULD DOGS THAT ATTACK PEOPLE, RELOCATED TO SOME WHERE THAT THEY CAN BE WHAT THEY ARE. WOULD WE BE SO QUICK TO PUT DOWN AN ANIMAL WHO ATTACKED IF IT WERE A RARE SPECIES? OR ON THE ENDANGERED LIST? I STILL SAY THAT THE OWNERS, WHOM I PERSONALLY KNOW, SHOULD PAY, BUT NOT WITH THE LIFE OF THE ANIMAL.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

TO THOSE WHO MIGHT HAVE WHAT IM SAYING SLIGHTLY DISTORTED; I NEVER SAID THAT THE DOG SHOULD BE GIVEN BACK TO THE OWNERS. I MERELY SAY THAT MY OPINION IS THEY SHOULD NOT BE MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD FOR MAKING A MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!

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als362 5 years, 5 months ago

This is what happens when people do not keep their animals under control. I have had problems with the dogs and cats in the area where I live for years. I think this is a very good message to all pet owners. Keep your animals on your own property or on a leash or suffer the consquences. These people have no one to blame but themselves, had these 2 dogs been under their control, they would still be alive. This is their fault, no one elses, just theirs. I applaud the judge that made this decision. Now when people let their animals run free they will know what could possibly happen, to them and the animal.

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als362 5 years, 5 months ago

To eastsidebonnie: I am sure there are people that could have handled these dogs. But the fact remains that the owners of these dogs failed to do that. True Cesar has said many times that all dogs can be controlled, but these 2 dogs were not under the control of anyone. I don't want to hear anymore of your lame excuses. I don't care how much you think you know about these dogs attitude or behavior. They attacked a person outside of the property the dogs should have been confined to. What happened to these dogs was the correct decision.

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sue 5 years, 5 months ago

I don't feel sorry for the dogs or the famliy that owned them. I feel sorry and upset for Mr.Grabowski and his family. Has anyone really thought about what Mr.G and his famliy are going through. Here Mr. G was going for his morning run and 2 pitbulls attack him. Now he is in the hospital fighting MSRA infection due to his dog bites. I'am sure that this was how he wanted to spend his summer vacation. And what about his little boy that don't want to go outside and play in his own yard, because he is scared that a dog will bite him or one of his little friends. We can all learn from this - control your dogs big or small - and to the Grabowski family i am sorry that your family has to pay for the uncontroled dogs that live in this town.

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lonelyone 5 years, 5 months ago

luvmyboxer, I like what you had to say. eastside, I can see you feel very strongly about your pet and pit bulls in general, but I would be so afraid that having tasted blood once, they would do this again. I just looked at the article on the KRAI website and if that is one of the dogs that had to be put down, I'd say it's a very frightening looking dog. And yes, I will agree that it might have just been the timing of the picture that makes it look that way, but still.......?!?!?

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selket42 5 years, 5 months ago

eastsidebonnie....the ONLY provocation the dogs would have been justified in that kind of attack on a human is if Mr. G. on their property...kicking the crud out of their owner or something like that....the definition of a protective dog. However....they were running at large...not under the control of their owner, and dogs being dogs.....when they see something running...instinct kicks in and they will either follow it,...or grab it....that's just what they do. And since there was more than one dog...it becomes a pack...not something you want...especially if it is a dog capable of inflicting massive and perhaps fatal damage to whatever they are chasing!! Not the dogs fault...hmmm...what line did they cross when they attacked a human???

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grubs1970 5 years, 5 months ago

my spelling is bad so dont laugh im daivid grabowski 8th sister in the family david becky and i love animals alot so we are not attecking the two bull dogs we are sorry for your 2 dogs and knows that pets are part of the family too but, that is my brother who was just jagging nothing else infact the two dogs brokke through their owners doors went after my brother and accteck him. after the police came all the did gave the owner a ticket just a ticket not just kill them off the bat like i readed here thank for becky co-worker and friends in your small town or you people never herd it until it would happened again maybe a child could die my brother is gotten worst in the hospital as we speak his the best brother that god blessings me. he's loving smart stuff carig when i need him or becky he always help through the rough times in my life i am the only one wheelchair in our family since birth but, i had the best brothers and, sisters in the world yes, you lost yours dogs but, what about us graboski's familiy who's hurted too that's my brother if i lost him or, any1 of them i lost apart of my flesh and blood my strenth when i need him the most my heart and soul you will get a new dogs again again but, i can't get a new brother daivid a law much change in your small town if not then again it happened to your mother father brother sister grandparent or, even your child all dogs who hurt people this for you diaper dave that i teased him when we were kids i love you i do anything for you ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

you evil people act like it was the dogs fault what dont you understand about these are animals. they are the only innocent ones in this sittuation.murder is murder. if your child hurt some one would it be right for the courts to have you killed? for what your child did you should be punished? does this sound correct? since you freaks act like these animals made a conscience decision to attack some one. as if they are humans, let ye who is sin free cast the first stone.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

YOU CAN NOT FULLY CONTROL AN ANIMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

selket42;i stand by my words......absolutly not is it nor will it ever be a fault of these or any dogs to do what is in their nature to do any more than it is a fault for people to get hungry and kill an animal for food.... you sir are ignorant!!!!!!!!!

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

lonelyone; i really wish i could post a picture of my dog on here for you to see how vicious he looks (being he is the brother of the dog in question) and after you saw that i would love to post pictures of my dog laying with a baby kitten. and ask how vicious he looks now.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

well since you people think that death is the only way to pay for what has happened to this man the why dont you just murder the owners to pay for it since they are the ones who allowed this to happen? deisel belonged to the children so lets form a mob and kill the children of this family to pay for what a stupid nonthinking dog did. lets put the blame where it does belong!!!!!!!!!! i bet to half of you craiginite inbred idiots this sounds like it makes sense huh??? morans!!!

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

i just went to the krai website and that isnt even the dog in question

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als362 5 years, 5 months ago

To eastsidebonnie: I think you are a little off the point here. When an animal attacks and does physical harm to a person, that is not acceptible. I do not understand how you can defend dogs that attack people in a pack. We do not need to see a picture of these dogs to see how vicious they were, they proved to everyone here exactly how vicious they were byt their attack. None of us are "evil people" or "inbred idiots" or "morons". What we are is a community that is tired of people like you that think their pets have more rights than we do. Thank God there is a judge that sees through that kind of thinking and takes appropriate action to eliminate future problems from these dogs. And yes I do believe that parents should be held accountable for their childrens actions, they raised and taught them, it is because of that training that their children act the way they do. Same as these dogs, the owners must be held responsible for these dogs actions. If they are not willing to do that, perhaps these two should be their last pets.

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sue 5 years, 5 months ago

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eastsidebonnie Stupid is what stupid does, you said you can not control a animal- that means that animal is condsidered a wild animal and what did they do to old yeller!!!!! They Knew when thier dog went bad they took care of it. Plus if it was a poddle I think David could have controled the problem, If thease PITBULLS are so good why don't you pay for the bill's for David Gabowski's bills. And I belive anyone whith a pet should be be able to pay for any damages that the pet puts on a person if it is a hamster or a PIT BULL.

I WISH ALL THE LUCK FOR THE GRABOWSKI FAMILY AND GOOD LUCK

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Matty 5 years, 5 months ago

The judge made the right decision. It's sad that dogs had to be put down. It's sad that dogs have to take the consequences of their owners' bad decisions. It could have been prevented if the owners had locked the dogs up securely, or trained the dogs not to attack people, or muzzled the dogs. But they didn't. Too bad dogs can't pick their owners, because these dogs were put down because of their owners.

I have owned pit bulls. They can be very good pets. But they do require more effort to protect other people. And owners are responsible if they do something bad. To give pit bulls to kids is the height of irresponsiblity. Perhaps their next pets will be Gerbils or something easier to control. And the kids should also know that their neighbor would be willing to have them put down instead of the dogs. Sheesh, there are some seriously flawed values going on here.

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dynamo7412 5 years, 5 months ago

In a nutshell... When dogs bite, they need to be put down. This is a standard procedure for dogs that bite. The city of Craig also has a leash law. Those dogs were running free, which tells me the owner was irresponsible like a lot of other residents of this City that think their dogs should run free. Maybe the fact that the animal control officers wont write tickets to people when they find their dogs running free has something to do with it. But in the end, it is the owners fault for not controling their animals. Quit wimpering and complaining and deal with the common consequences for not keeping your animals under control!

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dogfan 5 years, 5 months ago

I totally agree with dynamo. More needs to be done about all the loose animals running in the city. It's amazing there isn't more biting victims out there.

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GreyStone 5 years, 5 months ago

Colorado law allowing a person to kill a dog chasing livestock:

35-43-126. Dog worrying stock. Any dog found running, worrying, or injuring sheep, cattle, or other livestock may be killed, and the owner or harborer of such dog shall be liable for all damages done by it.

Hope Colorado will now pass a new law allowing a person to kill a dog chasing a People:.

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DV8 5 years, 5 months ago

Eastsidebonnie, Since I have never mauled a human and left a seven inch injury that caused a serious, potentially life-threatening infection, I feel free to cast stones. Animals know what they are doing, that is why they are able to be trained to not do things, such as get on furniture or try to kill people.

If, you were correct, and the dogs truly were not at fault, because they were only doing what is natural, why don't all dogs, or even all pit bulls randomly attack every person moving past them without provication? The answer is simple...

The dogs did choose to attack.

If you truly believe that dogs are unable to think and make choices, you need to start actually paying attention to your dog, because if you truly cared for your animal, you would see that it has an intelligence and thought processes, especially if you were working on training it to behave appropriately. If you really believe your own statement that you cannot control your animal, just have your dog euthanized now, because it will be the next one to attack and injure a person.

Anytime an animal hospitalizes a person, the animal should be killed.

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als362 5 years, 5 months ago

No eastsidebonnie, no one is heartless. What we are is tired of people that want to own pets but don't want to care for them as they should. That is why I don't own a dog. because I don't think I could give it the care and discipline it would need. Do not come here and try to blame everyone else for one families problems.

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lonelyone 5 years, 5 months ago

eastside, I'm glad to hear you say that the picture on the radio's website isn't the one of the dogs in question. As I said, that's a frightening looking picture. Heck for all I know the dog could be smiling and it appears to look different to me because of what is going on. I don't think you should call people names because we disagree with you in how this whole thing was handled, but I do realize that you are the only in a whole group of people who feels that these dogs are good dogs. I for one can see that you care deeply for your pet and want to defend the breed as a good breed of dog. I'm sorry your neighbors lost their pets and I am sorry Mr. G got bit like he did and is now having some serious problems because of it. It's not a picnic for anyone involved. It's just not a good situation, no matter how you look at it.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

i am not their neighbors any more im just a person with an opinion and i happen to own the brother of deisel ( the dog in question). but i do have a total of 11 pit bulls and a chihuahua that chases lots of perople but is in a fence, he thinks hes a pit bull. now i have to say that matty understands what im saying about the situation, it is very sad that these dogs have to be put down do to the fault of their owners. it is the owners fault period. and every one else is heartless.

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sickandtired 5 years, 5 months ago

quickgetaway..."hire good lawyer and sue the homeowners insurance company." Out of all the posts on this subject, notice that you're the only one that mentions 'sue'.? Its exactly a**s like you that have ruined America. Sue whenever you can. You don't think that family got hit hard enough already? They will have to pay all the medical bills and have their dogs put down. But thats not good enough for scumbags like you? I hope that something happens in your lifetime that it turns around on you and you get your pants sued off! You sound exactly like the fat pig that just moved out of Craig. She was sue happy too, and everybody hates her.

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lonelyone 5 years, 5 months ago

sickand tired, maybe quickgetaway, meant nothing terrible by that comment. Sometimes with the way things work, that's exactly what you have to do in order to get the insurance company to pay. And lets face it, that's why you carry insurance, is so they pay the bills and you don't have to pay a ton of money out of your own pocket...........but they are going to try to get out of every penny they can (the insurance company not the pet owner) which means many times your insurance company has to sue theirs or you have to sue theirs. But, your right in the fact that so many people have become sue happy and look for ways to make a ton of money. I'm not saying that is what this family plans to do. I don't know them and have no idea what kind of people they are. Just making a comment and will now shut up!

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nikobesti 5 years, 5 months ago

Someone got seriously hurt, and I'm supposed to care about this woman's children who miss their dog? Are you joking?

This terrifies me. My wife walks around this area. It could have been her, and it could have been much worse, as I'm not sure she could have jumped a fence. Dogs that could kill do not deserve a second chance.

Eastsidebonnie, I agree with you about on thing: the owners should also be held accountable. The dogs not only should have been put down, but criminal charges should be brought on their owners. I hope at least David brings a civil suit and gets major paid.

I hope you get well soon Mr. Grabowski.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

this is how i know there is alot of ignorant people in this town. i never said my dogs had more rights than a human being, i never said you should feel bad for the family of these dogs, all i am saying is that animals dont know what or have any morals they only do what comes natural to them and thats any animal, whether you own a dog, a cat, a gerbil, a pig, cows, horses or an alpaca. they where, from the begining of time, wild animals that we broke so we could feel good. selfish humans!!! we broke and killed everything we ever came across in this world, and i completely agree with sickandtired i hope you have some incident in your lives or the lives of some one you care deeply for, to where someone decides, over something that could have easily been taken care of, to sue the life out of you or them. accident happen its a part of life, but people can work things out, a dog cant go get a lawyer a say this is why i did this.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

if you want to treat animals as if they are human then you should give them the same rights. what about cattle they get to run the "open range" areas and if they get hit by a car the driver pays? how is that justified? im in the hospital because some farmer couldnt keep his cow on a leash and now i have to pay for the cow?hhhmmmmmm

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JAHM 5 years, 5 months ago

Oh how easy it is to claim you are dealing with ignorance when you do not want to see both sides of an argument. Are you a citizen of Craig eastsidebonnie, wouldnt that make you one of the ignorant hicks you seem to label this town as? Because people do not agree with you does not make them ignorant.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

you see how quickly people of are to put words in some ones mouth? that sir make you ignorant not once in any of my many postings did i use the word hick!!!! of course i dont need to, you know what you are. but i am not a resident of that town, i lived there, and i was only there for a short time in which i saw too much ignorance to stick around. for example, dv8 says " since he never mauled a human and left a seven inch injury that left a serious potentially life threatening injury i feel free to cast stones" hhhmmm this is a great example of ignorance, allow me to elaborate on this. first off just to use the name dv8 on here would say that you have strayed from the normal or usual path. and if you think that not biting some one is what i mean when i said cast the first stone then you should pick up a bible, because a sin is a sin, if you have never been guilty of a sin then you may cast the first stone but if you have ever sinned then you should really zip it!!! and to say that "our community" crap, oh dont even get me started, that town is no more than cheaters, liars, theives, 95% of your children are speed heads, or will be soon, corrupt police, swing parties, and oh the unbeleivable suicide rate, which personally i dont blame the youth of that town for jumping off the sand rocks!!!!! im glad i moved from the cult town who seems to think that they are God, who should be the only judge jury and executioner!!!!!!!!!!

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als362 5 years, 5 months ago

I think eastsidebonnie is about the stupidest person that has ever posted comments on this site. She is so wrapped up in her animal rights crap that she can't see what everyone else knows is right.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

you are entitled to your petty opinion. calling me stupid or saying everyone else is right doesnt make either one of those statements true. and i wasnt ever saying any "animal rights crap", but if my dog is smarter than you als362 then he should definitly have more rights than you do. i will once again say that it is my opinion that killing the dogs or any dogs for this is wrong, unless you have to kill it to get it to stop attacking, that i could understand, punish the people, retrain the animal. i didnt say give the animal back to the people either.i never said any one should feel sorry for the family of the dogs.(but i do feel for the children) i did not call anyone a hick.i am not saying the owners shouldnt pay for the damage plus some for their mistakes. i am not calling you people ignorant because you dont agree with me or what i think, im calling you ignorant for acting like animals understand the same as humans do, and for misinterpreting everything i've said and twisting up the rest of it.

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JAHM 5 years, 5 months ago

Many of us were here to discuss the pit bull isue but thankyou for the entertainment. To start the name calling and then suggest that suicide is a good thing for the youth of Craig! Wow! I wish you could calm down and see who you truely are. Thank you for casting so many stones Bonnie!!!

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JAHM 5 years, 5 months ago

So the only question on the retraining. If the dogs had been retrained and returned to new owners and then the same thing happened. What then?

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

i havent casted a one stone i just know that if i still lived there i would jump too. i also know what i know, having involved myself in several peoples lives there as friends and coworkers that everything i said is true. maybe instead of worrying about this dog or what im saying you should go see what your children are doing.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

then maybe i would agree with you but to not even give life a chance? although i would have my doubts that it would

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JAHM 5 years, 5 months ago

I agree with als362! Haha! Thankyou for moving out of Craig Bonnie.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

but we should really be a society that kills instead of rehabilitates. we put sex offenders back on the street to rape our children so whats the difference?

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

you know, haha, whats really funny? if i looked as ignorant as some of you do i would be calling someone "stupidest" too,lol!!! (if i had the mentality of a six year old)

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als362 5 years, 5 months ago

That would be assuming that you have the mentallity of a 6 year old, but your mentallity is much much less than that. If fact I think comparing you to a 6 year old is as big an insult to a 6 year old that there could possibly be. Bonnie you are beyond stupid, you are nuts beyond belief. Anyone that cannot see the need to destroy these 2 dogs is incapable of reasonable thought.

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concernedcitizen 5 years, 5 months ago

eastsidebonnie is completely absurd! I agree with JAHM...what happens when the "retrained" dog attacks again. What happens if you give the dog a second chance and it mames a child? Dogs who attack once should not get the chance to do it again. What if your child were the one killed by that dog? How would you feel? If you didn't want to kill that dog after hurting your child or family member, then you do have the mentality of a 6 year old!

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ArmyStrong 5 years, 5 months ago

Response to eastidebonnie: You know what YOU are saying? "but i do have a total of 11 pit bulls and a chihuahua that chases lots of perople but is in a fence, he thinks hes a pit bull." - Great comparision that your lil chihuahua chases lots of people (kinda like the 2 pitbulls that we all are discussing). You have 11 pitbulls for what purpose? - Rescue which would be good cause but give us some justified statisics on YOUR 'retraining' of pit bulls who vicious attack innocent humans. Or do you have 11 pitbulls for Breeding, which of course do bring in a little cash along with inbreeding issues.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

oh and since i only have such little mentality i"ll only reply to you that, God looks after children and fools, so i guess your all safe!!!!

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

i had one pit bull, i rescued a second from some one who claimed to not be able to take care of it. she was in heat when i took her and i didnt know it and she got pregnant, does that help you any? even tho that would be my business. ok, for the rest of you what about the people who hurt children? even child molesters are freed eventually but what if? what if the ederly are abused? what if your sons or daughters murder some one? think about it, would they not do a sentence and get out? nine times out of ten thats how it works, and yet the answer to what if has been answered, 85% of sexuall offenders get out and do it again, so why lety them out right? rid the world and kill them on the spot!!!! they know right from wrong!!! i dont see you people making a big deal about the sex offender they set free in craig, or bashing that preist or minister or what ever he was that killed his self because of charges of sexuall assault. but oh dear Jesus why did you allow these dogs to live????

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selket42 5 years, 5 months ago

Wow...it's amazing just how fast a discussion can deteriorate into a name calling...and yes bonnie, you did start the name calling, in the 8th of your postings...you called me sir...and said I was ignorant...wrong on both assumptions. Why didn't you have your dogs spayed or neutered...you said you took in a dog and didn't realize she was in heat. Was the baby daddy your male? If you are telling everyone here you are such a responsible dog owner...why haven't you neutered and or spayed...then you wouldn't have 11 pits. And if you have them all by choice...good luck...eventually you will need it.

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

you are ignorant sir,my dog didnt need to be neutered and or spayed. my dog cant get out of my yard, when he learned to jump our fence we put up an electric fence. why should we castrate my dog because i helped someone elses dog?they didnt have her fixed and i wasnt told all of the information, i only opened my home to a dog. and my responsibilty isnt in question, my dogs dont go roaming. i feed take care of and train my dogs. they have never bitten any one so you can throw your stupid comments in the sky and make a wish, personally i think you should wish for common sense.oh, and obviously God looks after you too. fool? or child?

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eastsidebonnie 5 years, 5 months ago

by the way name calling and stating an observated fact are two different things. i thank you all for proving me right time and time again about how small minded small town inbreds are. its been fun.

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DV8 5 years, 5 months ago

Eastsidebonnie, My stone comment wasn't ignorance... it was sarcasm. Sarcasm is a sharply ironical taunt. I will try not to be too condescending here (that's when you talk down to someone). I have read the bible, so I do understand the reference. I also remember reading that the Deity character of the book states that man rules over the beasts. I have to say. I do agree with you that human murders and sex offenders should be put down, just like these dogs, you yourself explained rehabilitation efforts are futile. People were upset and continue to be upset by these people being let loose. You just didn't get as emotional and upset, because you agreed with them.

I will assume that you are a vegan, because if you are not, that would make you a hypocrit. I also hope that you don't wear anything made of leather, such as belts or shoes, since killing an animal is murder. Also, plants are living things. If you are concerned about killing living things, please do not eat any animals or plants or use any of their by-products and see how far that gets you.

As to being ignorant, I believe most of the people posting have some knowledge of what they are writing about and utilizing that knowledge to formulate an opinion. You are the one who seems to be shooting from the hip and answering impulsively without knowledge, as you do not know the ancestory of anyone here to know if their parents were related (inbred), nor do you know if any of the people posting are unsophisticated (hick), simply because you don't agree with others.

You are also right that calling someone "stupidest" would be acting like a six year old. I guess calling everyone "inbred" bumps you by a year or two, to the level of an 8 year old, it is a more sophisticated term.

So, If you truly believe destroying life is wrong, let us know how you are doing after not eating plants or animals for a month.

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GreyStone 5 years, 5 months ago

DV8, Good post, however most of the conversation is over her head.

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als362 5 years, 5 months ago

Absolutely true GreyStone, eastsidebonnie is totally out to lunch. In fact I doubt she has the sense to go to lunch, instead she will just stand out somewhere and rant. The only thing I would add to your statement is that ALL of the conversation is over her head.

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greeneyedgurl 5 years, 5 months ago

Yes, good post and yes, way, way over bonnie's head. Common sense has gone out to lunch.

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melonie barrett 5 years, 5 months ago

eastsidebonnie,,,,,,were is clyde,,,seems to me something about dogs is rubbing your hair backwards,,,hmmmmm,,,,could it be that only dogs are the only companion,that life has to offer you,,,,and it is true,,,that dogs do like to lick alot,,,tell us about your dark side,,,,???

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lonelyone 5 years, 5 months ago

lawmaker, shame on you. this post has gotten out of hand the way it is, now your going to start with something like that??

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melonie barrett 5 years, 5 months ago

sorry,that was a little out of bounds,,,but telling people how you feel is not wrong

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als362 5 years, 5 months ago

As should many of these so callled pet lovers that allow their animals to roam the streets whenever they want, and go where ever they want, and do what ever thay want. That is not acting like a responsible pet owner, and that is what this discussion is about. The city and county leash laws both say you must have you pet on a 6 foot lead. Had these 2 dogs been under control on a 6 foot lead they would still be alive today. That is the truth, not an opinion. When those people that allow their animals to run free throughout the city/county stop doing that, then these types of problems will disappear. Period!

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jamie felten 5 years, 5 months ago

Wow! Seems some people have lots of time on their hands. I think we have gotten a little off topic here. We should probably act like adults!

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lonelyone 5 years, 5 months ago

als, I agree with you except for the part about the leash. If they are in their own yards, they don't have to be on a leash and if they can jump the fence, then yes they need to be chained up, but in that case, 6 feet is not near long enough, but there should be some kind of length rule.

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als362 5 years, 5 months ago

For those that just don't get it. The 6 foot lead law is applied when your pet is on public property. If the pet is tied on your property and it gets loose in anyway, the pet owner is liable for that.

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GreyStone 5 years, 5 months ago

What about Mr. Grabowski, the victim, in the dog incident: Does anyone know how he is doing.

Seems like all the attention has deviated from the real victim in this unfortunate incident.

Will he be able to get a financial settlement from the dog owner? Possibly all her worldly possessions and cash.

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tailspinn 5 years, 5 months ago

This is not the first attack by Sandra Bernhardt's dogs!!!!!! Someone very close to me was attacked by the dog as well. A few months ago I received a call to go to the ER - this young man had 19 puncture wounds in his hand and arm from this very same pitbull. He still has nerve damage as well. Mr. Grabowski never should have had to go through this; if the dog was taken care of the first time. I am a dog lover and own many myself (no pitbulls!!), but if one of my dogs ever attacked a person I would put them down myself and offer to pay for the medical bills of the victim. Sandra has not paid one cent to this young man for his medical bills or medications. Come on Sandra pay up!!!!!!! EASTSIDEBONNIE - maybe you should ask Sandra about the previous attack and ER visit - she was there!!!!

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JAHM 5 years, 5 months ago

Yes eastsidebonnie do tell us if you knew about this other incedent with the dog? if you have I would love to hear your side of it!

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cashNhand 5 years, 5 months ago

Funny how idiots always manage to prevail. This person was bit while trying to break up several dogs that were fighting. All the dogs had been inside the home where the fight took place for some time, when they started to fight for an unknown reason. This moron stuck his arm in trying to break them up and was bitten. He was not attacked. This was a totally different scenario. tailspin: You know exactly what happened here and you are trying to stir the pot. Why? I guess your name says it all. Trying to put the whole thing into a tailspin.

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tailspinn 5 years, 5 months ago

I am not trying to stir the pot as you say - Noone knows exactly what happened but the few that were in the house at the time of the incident. I will post no further comments on his story - the one point I wanted to make has been made - THE DOG HAS ATTACKED A PERSON BEFORE!!!

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