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2 transported after rollover accident west of Craig November 27, 2015
I believe that if Mr. Ronis is so concerned that his health is in danger from the use of coal, gas, and oil. That he should move to an island where these types of fuels are not available.
Give away your car that runs on oil. Move out of your house that uses electricity, and/or natural gas. Quit using appliances that use electricity and oil to run. Just become a hermit.
It is very likely in my opinion that the only reason he has a job in this area is because of the use and production of these fuels. Even if he does not work directly in one of these fields, there are other people here that do, that make his job necessary.
So Mr. Ronis I suggest that you quit biting the hand that is feeding you and get on board with the rest of us and support the use and production of these fuels for the good of this and future generations.
So William, what is your solution? What is the light you reference? Have we solved the energy for the future without fossil fuel and I missed it? It is always easy to speak in the abstract, where are the specifics? How will we get to that future for our grandchildren, by continuing to spend them into an abyss they cannot recover from? Perhaps it is those who complain without offering legitimate solutions who deserve pity.
To Mr. Ronis:
Just in case you didn't know. The wind and solar power that is being produced in America is highly compensated by our tax dollars just so they "appear" competitive, with the rest of the electrical power industry.
You might have some strange idea that wind and solar is cheaper, but that is an illusion brought on by dishonest politicians like both our US Senators and our useless so called president. Who's motto is "Spend Spend Spend"
Mr Ronis, what are these solutions? Safety, so now we restrict fireworks and pressure cookers? High Cap magazines and "assault rifles". What is an assault rifle? Anything that holds more than 10 rounds? My son has a .22 with a tube magazine, it holds 18. A magazine can be changed in a matter of seconds, no matter the size. Now I cannot purchase one in Colorado, so I just go to Wyoming. How about energy? What are the solutions? Solar? Not efficient, needed rare earth metals for the panels are mined in China, (one US mine) so we become in dept to China more and what about their environmental procedures when they mine and refine those metals, China has none. Wind? Same thing, rare earth, efficiency. Tidal generation, large storms will destroy them, not efficient, expensive, ugly, in shipping lanes, harm the fisheys. How about hydro, nope, gotta protect those fish, but we could retro fit many small dams like Elkhead. Biofuels, corn grown in the US depletes aquifers at a huge rate, we could go to sugar cane which is better and grow it in Florida/Hawaii. Our coal in NW Colorado is CLEAN, our powerplants are CLEAN. Natural gas price fluctuate to much. But there are methods of small turbines placed on the well site that tie into the grid. Come ion Mr. Ronis give is some answers.
Well Mr.Ronis.......let's go line by line here.....this won't take long.
Is not our health and the health of our environment more valuable than oil and coal? “
No. It takes electricity to purify water and without pure water humans die of all sorts of nasty diseases (to say nothing of cotton mouth).
It takes electricity, oil, and gas to create an environment suitable for modern humans to live. Don’t believe it? Try it sometime!
It takes electricity to provide health care without which even the most curable diseases are often fatal.
It takes fuel and electricity to move and store food, without which the current supply chain would collapse and many would starve to death.
The conclusion is that if we value our health and our environment we must value oil, and coal. Our survival depends on it.
“How about the future health of our planet and its occupants? Not more valuable than oil and coal?”
How about it? Is oil, coal, and gas production harming the future health of the planet? Got proof? If you have anything more than emotional chicken-little outbursts to back this assertion up please provide it....and all the metrics by which you arrived at your conclusion please.
If we follow the water and supply chain reasoning (see above) and decide to cut off the production of oil, gas, coal, and by extension ...power, there will be far fewer planet occupants to worry about.
The production of oil, gas, and coal enables our current population and its standard of living. The two are closely intertwined. Reduction in either one will result in a drop in the other.
And just what do you mean by valuable? Let’s roll that subject up and light it off...shall we? Do you mean the planet occupant's intrinsic value in terms of their contribution to the economy? Their contribution to society perhaps? Are they producing more than they consume? Are they parasites like the ones you will find in unpurified water?
“What about the safety of our children at school, and our freedom to walk down the road safely? Not more valuable than a background check, and a limited number of bullets in a magazine?”
If our children are truly unsafe at school....perhaps we should shut the school down? Recent history suggests that deliberately concentrating helpless victims in one location is attracting violent perpetrators. And this business of trapping them there during the event is aiding the carnage. Walking down the road safely is a right you can take advantage of immediately, by ARMING YOURSELF against those who would do you harm while you walk, it is perfectly legal for you to do so. But if you would like to wrap yourself in background checks, go right ahead. You will likely find walking a bit more difficult. As far as magazine capacity is concerned...many value accuracy over speed...quality over quantity. But magazines are just like unmanned government drones -quantity has a quality all of its own.
and so we continue...
“Oil and coal will be our staple for energy past our lifetimes”. Yes they will be a staple...good, affordable and reliable.
“We owe it to our grandchildren to move in a direction of a better form of energy for the future “
Is this what our grandchildren are getting in exchange for the 18 TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT WE ARE SADDLING THEM WITH? Debt to bail out banks, Social Security, Medicaid, government pensions and to provide free health care? A BETTER FORM OF ENERGY...LIKE WHAT? NUCLEAR?
WIND? (wind energy is about as reliable as a pot smoking employee)
“We owe it to our grandchildren to move in a direction for a safer country to live in for the future. “
Here is that “OWE” thing again…IF WE OWE ANYTHING TO OUR GRANDCHILDREN IT IS THE RIGHT TO NOT BE ENSLAVED BY THEIR ANCESTRAL MARXIST NONSENSE.
“The larger group of people are trying to move us in a positive forward direction, and for this I am thankful.”
The larger group of people are now contributing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to this country's upkeep costs. And if by positive forward direction you mean the one DOWN RIVER- TOWARDS THE DEATH DROP WATERFALL...well we might have found the one thing we agree on- excluding the thankful part.
“The smaller group is trying to keep us in darkness. The smaller dog barks the loudest. I feel sorry for them, for they cannot see the light.”
The smaller dog might be barking to try and WAKE YOU OUT OF YOUR CANNIBOID STUPOR. Maybe to get you to open a window, let some of that light in, and some of this wretched pot smoke out.
If our children are truly unsafe at school, then all teachers and school staff should be openly armed with firearms or tasers.
That is how you protect a school.
Had the principal at Sandy Hook school met that lunatic with a loaded pistol or a taser the incident at that school would have stopped at the school door he was shooting his way into.
As for Mr. Ronis, he is not connected with reality in any form. As I said earlier, he should go live on an island where no fuel of any kind is available. See how healthy he is after a few months there.
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