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Colorado Shooting, Batman & High Fructose Corn Syrup
Colorado Shooting, Batman & High Fructose Corn Syrup
by Deep Space
Defend yourselves! You have right to bare arms. You have the second amendment. As sad as that shooting was, and it was sad, I will not be an enabler!
People, stop being enablers. Those people where killed and wounded because no one, not one, took personal responsibility for their own safety!
When your life is threatened, when the powder smokes, the bullet cracks, and the screaming starts, you are the only one who is guaranteed to be there.
James Holems should have either been the first one to die, or maybe the second.
What happened is a sad commentary how dependent on others for our very breath of life we've become.
Any new laws over this would only serve to create and highten the false sense of security we already have in our society.
There was a picture on the web last week before this happened of a bikini clad Isrealie girl on a beach with friends with an M16 slung across her back. Military personnel in Isreal have to be in possession and or extremely responsible for their fire arms when they're on leave. That practice, plus an encouraged carry policy has stopped, butt cold, the terrorist machine gun attacks there. They all started ending with with just the terrorist dieing. No fun at all for crazy people.
Dam, I wish that girl had been in that theater.
The people that deserve our sincer simpithy are the children and people that where to young to get a carry permit. The rest freely chose and took the gamble with the odds it would never happen to them.
One last point, before anyone jumps up and disagrees with me, I'll bet 80 percent of the survivors will have gun permits one year from now.
The body armor may have stopped a bullet entry, but a 357mag or a 40cal would have broke ribs on a body shot in spite of the armor.
I used the word enablers in my first post. That's a little stronger than I would like it to be. The "people" I'm miffed at are the Patriarch's out there that see what has happened and still will make no changes in the protection of their families.
To them I will say this. God has given you a family and promise of future happieness with them. Defend that. It is your responsibility. Your family is counting on you in those cases. Don't just be willing to take a bullet for them. Be willing to make a criminal take a bullet for them also. Prove to your family you are the right man for the job. Because if you have been blessed with a family, God has already decided you are the right man.
Don't want to say much other than I hope the best for all those impacted by this horrible happening.
Just because you and I carry doesn't mean everyone should. Many people are uncomfortable with guns, for a variety of reasons - those who are shouldn't own or use one. The late conservative Tony Snow, for example, didn't own a gun and was unalterably opposed to the death penalty because he believed the 6th Commandment was to be taken literally and obeyed absolutely.
Many more Americans are killed on our roads & highways than are lost to violence. If we extend your logic, a God-fearing daddy shouldn't allow his family to ever get into a car.
Incidentally, the Constitution doesn't say anything about a right to "bare arms." It appears you've confused tank tops with weapons.
Your right about not everyone should carry. I was just upset at the waist of it all. What's right for some isn't right for others.
I wished I had been in that theater though. Right by the exit. That coward would have seen what a two sided fire fight feels like.
See my reaction comes from experience. I was an M60 gunner in Iraq. That's a chain gun. I've seen bodies stacked up and it really bothers me to see that kind of violence perpetrated on innocent people here at home. Perpetrated by the lowest of life forms that crawl this Earth.
I've seen and been part of stopping this sort of things in the past. Meeting force with force can stop this stuff cold.
I hope everyone out there has a safe and long life. May God be with those victims of any violence, anywhere.
I've been thinking bout CHL, know what the process is. Now I have to think about a gun. I have a 20 gague for home defense and a 22 revolver with snakeshot for the rattlers. The 22 is the only handgun I've ever used. Any suggestions for a 5'3" woman?
A coworker tells me knockdown power is important, so it's not the 22.
I'm reluctant to recommend a specific weapon. What's comfortable for me may not be for you. And “knockdown” power should be less of a priority than a weapon you are able to shoot accurately and safely. As far as “knockdown” power is concerned - instant takedowns are rare in most episodes involving handguns. In the majority of incidents, placing a round on target immediately illicits a flight response from the target(s). I give you the recent video of the 71-year old guy in the internet cafe who successfully used his small 380 semi-auto against a pair of armed punks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTct7O... At the end of the day, I want the biggest caliber I can control consistently under stress. So I think the best gun/caliber is the one that goes bang when you want it to, while enabling you to hit what you're aiming at - and it's different for everybody. As I once heard a defensive handgun instructor put it: “A gun is like your nose. Don't let anyone else pick it for you.”
Having said all that, you might look at .357 caliber revolvers (if you intend to carry concealed, you'll want one without the hammer spur). Revolvers are easier and more reliable to operate & maintain than semi autos, and the .357 also accepts the family of .38 caliber rounds. So it's a weapon that allows you to use a variety of loads: .38, .38 Sp, .38 Sp+P, and .357. Another thing – as a woman, you have an advantage over members of the male race: your purse. It enables you to conceal a wider variety weapons than I can accommodate with my inside the waistband holsters. If you want to get fancy, google 'concealed carry purse', and you'll find oodles of options.
I'm an occasional customer of Elk River Guns, and have found the staff there to be very knowledgeable (full disclosure: I do not have an ownership interest in the enterprise, and my association with the staff there is strictly as an occasional patron). I think you'd probably find it helpful to speak with them. Discuss your needs & budget and you'll likely get some excellent advice.
I would recomed Northwest Pawn. That's one of the best gun stores I've ever used. Along with a 357, I would suggest a 40. Cal s&w. The 357 short hammer less is really light and I carry it a lot and forget its even in my pocket. The problem is you really can't shoot accurately past thirty yards. I believe it's 80 percent of all gun fight happen within fifteen feet though. I would still recommend the 357. The best gun, the best, is the one that's so easy to carry you don't notice it.
Hey so fourteener sorry about my spelling on bare arms, lol yea I looked up what you where talking about and got your joke. Everyone, our founders spelled it " bear arms". I have an i phone and sometimes these things go a little faster than they should. Meaning I don't check everything I should. I thought about that when I typed it, but in the end I just went with a guess. If I'd been at my computer I would have check it real quick.
Anyway, have a good day everyone.
One more thing: don't be so dismissive about your .22. If a bad guy breaks in and your .22 is the most accessible weapon, don't hesitate to use it. First, the mere appearance of an armed homeowner may be enough to send him running the other way. Second, a couple three rounds of snakeshot in the face will sting, lemme tell ya. And it may buy you enough time to get to that 20 gauge in the closet.
In addition to my holstered .38, I always have my North American Arms .22 magnum mini revolver in my pocket. Once in a blue moon, it'll be the only weapon on my person. Is it my first choice for a self defense pistol? No. But it eradicates any possible reason for not carrying, and it beats the heck out of my main carry gun sitting in the glove compartment. Plus, it's fun as all get out to shoot. And for those who are rolling their eyes at the .22 mag, I dare you to stand in front of mine as I pull the trigger.
Meant to include a link to show you the NAA .22: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KBCNgeS5xs&feature=related
It's hurts to know that someone would do this. But in the end he'll get what is coming. Not only did he kill people he also hit the military hard. I'm proud of what one military man did. He gave his life to save the female he was with by taking the bullet for her. The families of the victims are in my thoughts and prayers. May he pay for his actions. God bless the military men and women that gave they're lives to save those around them in that movie.
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